Comments on: ‘Miraculous Victory:’ Battle of Didgori, 1121

By: 50GEORGIAN

50GEORGIAN — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:34:04 +0000

as the georgian historians tell us, there were about 200 french cavalry-men and they did NOT get to fight becouse our king didn’t want them to fight, they were watching the battle the whole time. as of 200 georgian soldiers who went to the enemy as the traitos of georgia, it was a trick and enemy paid for it.

By: Tornike Georgian

Tornike Georgian — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 02:13:43 +0000

i d like to contribute to the discussion on who Georgian army consisted of and reasons behind certain numbers.
so as its widely agreed there was 40,000 Georgians, 15,000 Qipcaqs, 500 Allans and 100 European Crusaders.
as you can see the majority of soldiers were Georgians, just about 70% of the whole army.
as we know from the history David IV invited 40,000 Qipcaq families to live in Georgian land on the premise that they would produce 1 soldier per family when there’d be a need for it. So simple calculation tells us that David IV could have 40,000 Qipcaqs taking part in Didgori battle. But he simply didn’t allow it. And the reason behind it was that he knew that it was the Battle of Georgia and Georgian Christian culture and mindset against the ones of Muslim. Tbilisi was Georgian Jerusalem which was also under Muslim rule. So it was purely Georgian battle against Muslim coalition and David wanted it to be won by Georgians.
From the strategic point of view you can argue why David risked so much and did not deploy all of its resources while difference in numbers was such high between Georgian and Muslim sides but all i can say about this is that firstly, David must have been very confident about his victory in this battle and on the other hand when you are facing the coalition of around a half million soldiers with 57,000 soldiers what you are thinking about is what sort of strategic moves tactical manoeuvres will take you to the victory rather than assuming that you could win with 25,000 extra soldiers which would make not so significant difference.

By: crossbearershvili

crossbearershvili — Wed, 25 May 2011 09:09:12 +0000

The interpretation of military “canning” of King David here is not
what it simce. It is only prersumed that 200 knights offered to change sides to the leaders of Muslim armies.
In reality it was always well known move of Georgians to fight with smaller force, that sometimes confused a much stronger enemy.
Thus, another king, the “Patara Kahi”, defeited Persian army much later by simply stopping his guard and waiting for atcking him much larger army. They were confused too by a much smaller army that didn’t run and lost.

By: Gega kalmaxelidze

Gega kalmaxelidze — Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:44:25 +0000

Let live in peace. no more wars and killings History give us lesson for this bad things when people was killing each other for lands what they didn’t need. Be friendly to each other be care full for People lives and never forget that we are all peoples and we can help each other in many things that someone can’t do. this is teaching us history!!! I love my Country that named Georgia.

By: georgiansun

georgiansun — Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:30:17 +0000

This is one of the most important georgian war .. But it is a small part of .. We Georgians are not strong now, but hope get as dead as Lazarus rallyinging jesus rallying georgia s. … This will be very soon! I believe it!

By: Ladomet

Ladomet — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:40:21 +0000

I think that part of temple knights in didgori war in not true. Because I think that when we have Georgians Who can fight with 10 seljuks together dont need temple knights for help. So as we can see in history we often fight with turks , persi , mongolian imper etc. So we have skills for fighting and I think that they would say like this to temple knights : Go and eat and drink , we will take care of them. This is part of our guest loving lifes.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:39:41 +0000

Georgian:
- not all georgians think what you beleive in. Those conquests were irianian conquests.

By: Georgian

Georgian — Fri, 21 May 2010 06:59:36 +0000

Georgians adore David the Builder. He made a whole EMPIRE ON CAUCASUS. His successors Conquered Azerbaijan, Trabzon, north Turkey, Armenia, part of modern Russia. His great granddaughter even invaded Iran. Their influence was from Greece till Jerusalem. Later David’s dynasty conquered Afganistan, but its said that Afganistan was conquered by Iranians!!!

By: Georgian

Georgian — Fri, 21 May 2010 06:53:25 +0000

David is still father of Georgians, though it existed 6000 years before David. This victory is more than just a battle for Georgians. David once defeated 100 000 Turks with 1500 soldiers. It’s a famous fact. He was incredible. Non-human man.

By: Hernan Reyes

Hernan Reyes — Thu, 28 May 2009 13:57:39 +0000

Question for DerantW : Do you have a source for this “relationship” between the Georgian rulers and the Frankish participants? Do you have any more information on the actual composition of the “little reinforcement” ? Were they crusaders from a specific nation, or knights of an order? Do you have any references for this?