Comments on: Kasserine Pass: Allied Defeat? http://www.armchairgeneral.com/kasserine-pass-allied-defeat.htm All things military history! Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:24:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Gerry Proudfoot http://www.armchairgeneral.com/kasserine-pass-allied-defeat.htm/comment-page-1#comment-30412 Gerry Proudfoot Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:10:29 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?page=1&p=3373#comment-30412 The author is in error in one major point. The British were not destroyed in front of Thala and the remaining forces were not just Stark's survivors. The tanks and infantry still in front Thala the morning of the 21st were from the British 26th Armoured Brigade supported by the divisional artillery of the US 9th Infantry DIvision. These are the forces that stopped the 10th Pz at Thala, while more British and US forces stope the 21st Pz at Sbiba and, finally, the US 16th regiment orf 1st division and CCB of of US 1st Armoured stopped the Africa Corps Assault Group at Haidra in the Hatab River valley. ALl that aside, it was a definite Allied win. The author is in error in one major point. The British were not destroyed in front of Thala and the remaining forces were not just Stark’s survivors. The tanks and infantry still in front Thala the morning of the 21st were from the British 26th Armoured Brigade supported by the divisional artillery of the US 9th Infantry DIvision. These are the forces that stopped the 10th Pz at Thala, while more British and US forces stope the 21st Pz at Sbiba and, finally, the US 16th regiment orf 1st division and CCB of of US 1st Armoured stopped the Africa Corps Assault Group at Haidra in the Hatab River valley.

ALl that aside, it was a definite Allied win.

]]> By: David http://www.armchairgeneral.com/kasserine-pass-allied-defeat.htm/comment-page-1#comment-20238 David Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:51:35 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?page=1&p=3373#comment-20238 This article is what true historical analysis is all about; find out what really happen and not what is politically correct or pleasing. While the battle at Sidi Bou Zid was a German victory, Kasserine was another matter. Initially the Americans were heavly punished for their sloppy deployments and slow responses. However, they managed to deny Rommel his goal of reaching Tebessa. In his final effort to break through, his forces were severly punished by American artillery. In fact, Rommel expressed his admiration for the way the Americans handled their artillery. In the end, it was Rommel who was forced to retreat. It was not a 'great' victory, but it was a victory none the less. In his book, "There's a War to Be Won", Geoffrey Perret gives an excellent analysis of this battle and why it has been misconstrued as an abject defeat for the Americans. This article is what true historical analysis is all about; find out what really happen and not what is politically correct or pleasing. While the battle at Sidi Bou Zid was a German victory, Kasserine was another matter. Initially the Americans were heavly punished for their sloppy deployments and slow responses. However, they managed to deny Rommel his goal of reaching Tebessa. In his final effort to break through, his forces were severly punished by American artillery. In fact, Rommel expressed his admiration for the way the Americans handled their artillery. In the end, it was Rommel who was forced to retreat. It was not a ‘great’ victory, but it was a victory none the less. In his book, “There’s a War to Be Won”, Geoffrey Perret gives an excellent analysis of this battle and why it has been misconstrued as an abject defeat for the Americans.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.armchairgeneral.com/kasserine-pass-allied-defeat.htm/comment-page-1#comment-9604 Patrick Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:46:13 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?page=1&p=3373#comment-9604 I agree, if you win a battle, for ex. you take a huge defensive line. Well if you beat your enemy but you only have 20 guys left, well then its a bigger loss for you than the other guy, cause he'll retaliate with 1000 men. So allied victory for me. Though I never lose respect for Rommel, bad guy or not he was a brilliant mind. I agree, if you win a battle, for ex. you take a huge defensive line. Well if you beat your enemy but you only have 20 guys left, well then its a bigger loss for you than the other guy, cause he’ll retaliate with 1000 men. So allied victory for me. Though I never lose respect for Rommel, bad guy or not he was a brilliant mind.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.armchairgeneral.com/kasserine-pass-allied-defeat.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7963 Patrick Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:34:48 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/articles.php?page=1&p=3373#comment-7963 Great article.Well, I believe that the germans have been considered to have won the battle, but the U.S. forces could more afford the losses than Rommel could. Rommel needed any and all tanks he could get a hold of, so even though the Americans didn't inflict heavy casualties on the Germans, it still greatly affected the capabilities of the africa corps by destroying even only a few tanks, so I would go for allied victory, but thats just me.Please correct me if that appears incorrect. Great article.Well, I believe that the germans have been considered to have won the battle, but the U.S. forces could more afford the losses than Rommel could. Rommel needed any and all tanks he could get a hold of, so even though the Americans didn’t inflict heavy casualties on the Germans, it still greatly affected the capabilities of the africa corps by destroying even only a few tanks, so I would go for allied victory, but thats just me.Please correct me if that appears incorrect.

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