Comments on: Insights into the Georgia – South Ossetia – Russia Conflict http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm All things military history! Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:27 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jim Allen http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6356 Jim Allen Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:05:14 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-6356 It's all a question of wise policy. It cannot be wise policy to encircle Russia unless one is prepared to weigh the (probably notional) energy policy gains against the foreign policy nightmare. Russia has a history of resisting bullying. Her people will likely support her government in this. It’s all a question of wise policy. It cannot be wise policy to encircle Russia unless one is prepared to weigh the (probably notional) energy policy gains against the foreign policy nightmare. Russia has a history of resisting bullying. Her people will likely support her government in this.

]]> By: Russian http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-713 Russian Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:59:50 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-713 People of the world. You deceive! World mass media conduct propagation of a false information. Russia DID NOT ATTACK Georgia! 07.08.2008 at 22:00 Georgia has attacked South Ossetia. At 3:30 08.08.2008 tanks of the Georgian armies have entered into city Tskhinvali. Artillery bombardment all the day long proceeded, fights with use of tanks and heavy combat material, both against ossetic armies, and against peace inhabitants were conducted. 2000 civil people already were lost. The Russian peacemakers have arrived to South Ossetia in the evening 08.08.2008 for settlement of the conflict and prompting of the world in republic and protection of the Russian citizens living on territory of South Ossetia. Georgia has attacked South Ossetia on eve of Olympiad, it is top of cruelty and cynicism. Proofs and video-materials look on : http://www.1tvrus .com/ , http://www.1t v.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.main , http://www.rian.ru/ , http://www.vesti.ru/news , http://news.ntv.ru/ , http://www.ren-tv.com/ , http://www.newsru.com/ . We shall tell is not present to WAR!!! People
of the world. You deceive! World mass media conduct propagation of a
false information. Russia DID NOT ATTACK Georgia! 07.08.2008 at 22:00
Georgia has attacked South Ossetia. At 3:30 08.08.2008 tanks of the
Georgian armies have entered into city Tskhinvali. Artillery
bombardment all the day long proceeded, fights with use of tanks and
heavy combat material, both against ossetic armies, and against peace
inhabitants were conducted. 2000 civil people already were lost. The
Russian peacemakers have arrived to South Ossetia in the evening
08.08.2008 for settlement of the conflict and prompting of the world in
republic and protection of the Russian citizens living on territory of
South Ossetia. Georgia has attacked South Ossetia on eve of Olympiad,
it is top of cruelty and cynicism. Proofs and video-materials look on :

http://www.1tvrus .com/ ,
http://www.1t v.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.main ,
http://www.rian.ru/ ,
http://www.vesti.ru/news ,
http://news.ntv.ru/ ,
http://www.ren-tv.com/ ,
http://www.newsru.com/ .
We shall tell is not present to WAR!!!

]]> By: Humanist http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-691 Humanist Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:12:41 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-691 Since cold war ended with the breakdown of the mighty USSR empire is there any need of NATO to bring the former soviet republics under its umbrella by offering inducements to these poor countries. If these countries really need help this can be easily provided by moneytary and other means to prop up their economy than fortifying their military. Georgia, Poland and Czech Republics are good examples. Russia should be given all the help to recover from the aftermath of the breakdown of the USSR. Sadly, what we see is a well concerted move by USA and the NATO in their attempts to humiliate Russia. This can be very dangerous in fuelling ultra-nationalism the way Nazis came to power in Germany. There is also a definite double standard in the USA and its allies in its attitude towards Russia. If Kosovo can seccede why not South Ossetia and Abkhazia?? If Milesovic can be tried as a war criminal why not Saakashvili?? Why Chechens are freedom fighters and Talibans are terrorists. When USSR had invaded Afghanistan for the same reason the USA and NATO did (to eliminate terrorism and tyranny of religious fundamentalism) why did USA create the Talibans and armed them to their teeth. Divide and rule policy can sometime backfire and can create its own Frankensteins!! Its time for USA and its allies to learn form their mistakes and do some serious introspection. Since cold war ended with the breakdown of the mighty USSR empire is there any need of NATO to bring the former soviet republics under its umbrella by offering inducements to these poor countries. If these countries really need help this can be easily provided by moneytary and other means to prop up their economy than fortifying their military. Georgia, Poland and Czech Republics are good examples. Russia should be given all the help to recover from the aftermath of the breakdown of the USSR. Sadly, what we see is a well concerted move by USA and the NATO in their attempts to humiliate Russia. This can be very dangerous in fuelling ultra-nationalism the way Nazis came to power in Germany. There is also a definite double standard in the USA and its allies in its attitude towards Russia.
If Kosovo can seccede why not South Ossetia and Abkhazia?? If Milesovic can be tried as a war criminal why not Saakashvili?? Why Chechens are freedom fighters and Talibans are terrorists. When USSR had invaded Afghanistan for the same reason the USA and NATO did (to eliminate terrorism and tyranny of religious fundamentalism) why did USA create the Talibans and armed them to their teeth. Divide and rule policy can sometime backfire and can create its own Frankensteins!! Its time for USA and its allies to learn form their mistakes and do some serious introspection.

]]> By: Adam Sheridan http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-676 Adam Sheridan Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:00:32 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-676 My personal view is that NATO should not be disbanded, just because the USSR is disbanded doesn't mean that russia's policies are not a threat to stability in th world, the NATO alliance forces by legal paper if one party is attack then they are all attacked. What greater deterent to war or bullying. Any of the major countries are still a threat to smaller nations in terms of miltary might and economic pressures, the guarentee indepences of these countries are paramount and with NATO especially in the areas of europe, it is unlikely there will be challenges through miltary force of smaller independant countries. NATO did a great job in the old yugoslavia, through the transision phases it had. Looking at those countries today is proof of there sucess. If anything how NATO operates is fair better process then how the UN works, and each member gets an equal voice. Just look at the security council the UN how it is not effective , especially when it comes to protect humans basic rights. Sometimes a fist has to be used to protect these rights, and the UN can never provide this. My personal view is that NATO should not be disbanded, just because the USSR is disbanded doesn’t mean that russia’s policies are not a threat to stability in th world, the NATO alliance forces by legal paper if one party is attack then they are all attacked. What greater deterent to war or bullying.

Any of the major countries are still a threat to smaller nations in terms of miltary might and economic pressures, the guarentee indepences of these countries are paramount and with NATO especially in the areas of europe, it is unlikely there will be challenges through miltary force of smaller independant countries.

NATO did a great job in the old yugoslavia, through the transision phases it had. Looking at those countries today is proof of there sucess.

If anything how NATO operates is fair better process then how the UN works, and each member gets an equal voice. Just look at the security council the UN how it is not effective , especially when it comes to protect humans basic rights.

Sometimes a fist has to be used to protect these rights, and the UN can never provide this.

]]> By: Marty http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-670 Marty Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:21:56 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-670 Mr Wilson I can't agree with your assertion that democracy is not superior to every other form of government yet tried, regardless of which country it would be applied to. Can you name another form which is superior to it? Whether a country is yet ready for a modern democracy is another question entirely. Education of the electorate and establishment of democratic institutions is a prerequiste. Is Iraq or China ready yet? Probably not. Russia certainly may be. Mr Wilson I can’t agree with your assertion that democracy is not superior to every other form of government yet tried, regardless of which country it would be applied to. Can you name another form which is superior to it?

Whether a country is yet ready for a modern democracy is another question entirely. Education of the electorate and establishment of democratic institutions is a prerequiste. Is Iraq or China ready yet? Probably not. Russia certainly may be.

]]> By: General Mike http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-653 General Mike Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:45:53 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-653 Tactically speaking this is a old tactic as old as Sun Tzu. Speaking of old tactical deceptions, blaming the victim by silencing their voices/news was probably used best by America in the Tonkin Gulf Incident which was what President Johnson could come up with at short notice. Another major disinformation specialist was Bonaparte, who speeded home after declaring victory in Egypt after leaving his army stranded and defeated army to fend for itself in the Middle East. Controlling the press is always how the user of disinformation and blamingb the victim works best. Remember, Putin seized control of the media before he started every other subsequent seizure of America's Cold War victory. It began with blamming the Chechens for blowing up several huge blocks of concrete apartment buildings killing 500 plus innocents. Tactically speaking this is a old tactic as old as Sun Tzu. Speaking of old tactical deceptions, blaming the victim by silencing their voices/news was probably used best by America in the Tonkin Gulf Incident which was what President Johnson could come up with at short notice. Another major disinformation specialist was Bonaparte, who speeded home after declaring victory in Egypt after leaving his army stranded and defeated army to fend for itself in the Middle East. Controlling the press is always how the user of disinformation and blamingb the victim works best. Remember, Putin seized control of the media before he started every other subsequent seizure of America’s Cold War victory. It began with blamming the Chechens for blowing up several huge blocks of concrete apartment buildings killing 500 plus innocents.

]]> By: Alexander Wilson http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-616 Alexander Wilson Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:33:42 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-616 US Dude and Mr. Jackson, Please allow me to say that I am not supporting Putin per se, and do not think that he is "right"---only that he is not entirely wrong and evil, like most people think. Pointing out that NATO is wrong does not necessarily mean backing Putin 100%...I only sympathize with him with regards to aggressive NATO encroachment and the missile shield, etc. I do not support any assassinations or rigged elections, etc. that have gone on in Russia...though I do support a more humble and less hubrisitic U.S. and NATO foreign policy. Regards to you both, Alex CC US Dude and Mr. Jackson,

Please allow me to say that I am not supporting Putin per se, and do not think that he is “right”—only that he is not entirely wrong and evil, like most people think. Pointing out that NATO is wrong does not necessarily mean backing Putin 100%…I only sympathize with him with regards to aggressive NATO encroachment and the missile shield, etc. I do not support any assassinations or rigged elections, etc. that have gone on in Russia…though I do support a more humble and less hubrisitic U.S. and NATO foreign policy.

Regards to you both,

Alex
CC

]]> By: John T. Jackson http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-555 John T. Jackson Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:28:06 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-555 I absolutely agree with US Dude on this matter. The US attitude toward Putin is due to his unwillingness to relinquish power and the means he has gone to do so. Assassinations, rigged elections and similar activities should not be seen as "cultural differences," but the abuse of a weak political structure in Russia. That said, the Russian people deserve better and we should not pretend otherwise. I absolutely agree with US Dude on this matter. The US attitude toward Putin is due to his unwillingness to relinquish power and the means he has gone to do so. Assassinations, rigged elections and similar activities should not be seen as “cultural differences,” but the abuse of a weak political structure in Russia. That said, the Russian people deserve better and we should not pretend otherwise.

]]> By: US Dude http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm/comment-page-1#comment-546 US Dude Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:46:27 +0000 http://www.armchairgeneral.com/insights-into-the-georgia-south-ossetia-russia-conflict.htm#comment-546 It's funny how nobody mentions what the author originally said about Russia inserting itself into another country's affairs, but you point out that NATO and the US are doing that very thing... with vehemence. Which hypocrisy is worse, yours or theirs? Putin has reversed Russia's gains since the Cold War ended, whether or not it is admitted here. Sure he has found sources of income to fuel the Russian economy... at the expense of Russian citizens (as usual). Robbing people of their wealth under false pretenses is a Soviet tactic, fostered by Putin, who is a Soviet to his very marrow, Cold War or no. Just because NATO is wrong doesn't make Russia right. It’s funny how nobody mentions what the author originally said about Russia inserting itself into another country’s affairs, but you point out that NATO and the US are doing that very thing… with vehemence. Which hypocrisy is worse, yours or theirs?

Putin has reversed Russia’s gains since the Cold War ended, whether or not it is admitted here. Sure he has found sources of income to fuel the Russian economy… at the expense of Russian citizens (as usual). Robbing people of their wealth under false pretenses is a Soviet tactic, fostered by Putin, who is a Soviet to his very marrow, Cold War or no.

Just because NATO is wrong doesn’t make Russia right.

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