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This is what I said (in post #5):
"It's an aspirational brand. But only those who aspire to following a life of crime, or who endorses the "gang" lifestyle, would want to own one."
Which is 100% incorrect. You are showing your ignorance on this subject.
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Check out this Oultlaw 1%er on his Harley:

I'm not talking about them and was unaware that they are used by police. In Australia they use Hondas from memory. They definitely don"t used HD here. If I was aware I would have noted the use by police in my previous post as an exception.
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I'm not talking about them and was unaware that they are used by police. In Australia they use Hondas from memory.
You are unaware of this subject period. Your statement is just so absurd and ignorant to reality.
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Steve is right though. A starving caveman doesn't need an expensive motorcycle. $400,000 worth of antibiotics or water purification equipment would made a difference, the bikes probably won't.
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Steve is right though. A starving caveman doesn't need an expensive motorcycle. $400,000 worth of antibiotics or water purification equipment would made a difference, the bikes probably won't.
Oh I agree that motorcycles, and these at least, aren't the absolute best thing. But this everyone that owns a Harley sells drugs and pimps women is just so ridiculous.
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You are unaware of this subject period. Your statement is just so absurd and ignorant to reality.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7957863.stm

"A man has been bludgeoned to death by a group of Australian motorcycle gang members in full view of dozens of people at Sydney airport.

Witnesses described bikers swinging poles "like swords" at each other's heads as the brawl spilled over two floors of Sydney's domestic terminal.

Four suspects have been arrested and the others are said to have fled.

Police believe the fight broke out when one group of bikers coming off a plane was ambushed by a rival gang.

Police did not name any gangs thought to be involved, but Australian media reported that the brawl, on Sunday afternoon, was between the Hell's Angels and Comancheros gangs.

A 28-year-old man died in hospital from severe head injuries.

Police said about 15 gang members were involved in the fight, which was witnessed by about 50 people.

'Group of cowards' .......
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...well, here comes my two cents worth....I always wave to other bikers whilst on the road with my Triumph...invariably Harley riders couldn't be bothered to reciprocate in kind or even acknowledge my existance. Given the fact that my bike is faster, classier, more maneuverable, and has less mechanical problems than Harleys, I won't hold it against those folks who affect tattoos, facial hair, large breasted behemoths in skin tight tanktops clinging to the back and who remove the baffling from their tailpipes. I applaud Harley-Davidson for trying to 'help' the Haitian people by giving expensive, gas guzzling, flat track, low clearance, high mainainance motor vehicles to those fine, incorrupt government folks who will benefit from their largesse and will use said vehicles for the well-being of the inhabitants of Port-au Prince.

Do you think they'll send along the black leather jackets as well?
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"A man has been bludgeoned to death by a group of Australian motorcycle gang members in full view of dozens of people at Sydney airport.

Witnesses described bikers swinging poles "like swords" at each other's heads as the brawl spilled over two floors of Sydney's domestic terminal.

Four suspects have been arrested and the others are said to have fled.

Police believe the fight broke out when one group of bikers coming off a plane was ambushed by a rival gang.

Police did not name any gangs thought to be involved, but Australian media reported that the brawl, on Sunday afternoon, was between the Hell's Angels and Comancheros gangs.

A 28-year-old man died in hospital from severe head injuries.

Police said about 15 gang members were involved in the fight, which was witnessed by about 50 people.

'Group of cowards' .......
What is your point? I'm not saying MCs don't exist. I'm saying they don't consist of the majority of people that ride Harleys. I mean do you understand that? Is it really that hard to figure out?

for every 1 Outlaw there are over 100, probably even more, Harley owners that have nothing to do with that crap. So your ignorant statement of (this is a paraphrase) "Most people that own harleys are gang members" is just freaking wrong. Period.
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What is the "brand of choice" for motorcycle gangs?
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What is your point? I'm not saying MCs don't exist. I'm saying they don't consist of the majority of people that ride Harleys. I mean do you understand that? Is it really that hard to figure out?

for every 1 Outlaw there are over 100, probably even more, Harley owners that have nothing to do with that crap. So your ignorant statement of (this is a paraphrase) "Most people that own harleys are gang members" is just freaking wrong. Period.
But I rarely see them on the road individually. They are almost always in their large groups "in colours". And most times, their owners have to go to extraordinary lengths to protect them from being stolen. The only people who would want to steal them are other Harley "appreciators".

And if you are going to "quote" me, would you mind actually using what I said, not what you think I said, or that which you would have liked me to say? If you can't quote me accurately, I would appreciate that you do not quote me at all, thanks.
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Obviously on their way to a big meth deal at the Lincoln Memorial. ( I know they aren't all on Harleys, no need to point that out)
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But I rarely see them on the road individually. They are almost always in their large groups "in colours". And most times, their owners have to go to extraordinary lengths to protect them from being stolen. The only people who would want to steal them are other Harley "appreciators".

And if you are going to "quote" me, would you mind actually using what I said, not what you think I said, or that which you would have liked me to say? If you can't quote me accurately, I would appreciate that you do not quote me at all, thanks.
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It's an aspirational brand. But only those who aspire to following a life of crime, or who endorses the "gang" lifestyle, would want to own one."
This is a flat out wrong, stupid, ignorant statement. It shows your complete lack of knowledge of this subject, and it would serve you well to just stop insisting your statement is correct.
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So can anyone please tell me what is the "most favoured" motorcycle of criminal motorcycle gangs, or is everyone in denial? I cant remember seeing a Hells Angel on a Honda, or a Comanchero on a Suzuki, or a...?
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So can anyone please tell me what is the "most favoured" motorcycle of criminal motorcycle gangs, or is everyone in denial? I cant remember seeing a Hells Angel on a Honda, or a Comanchero on a Suzuki, or a...?
Holy Crap you just don't get it! You said EVERYONE that rides a Harley aspires to live a gang lifestyle. That is not true, the Hell's Angels, Outlaws, Pagans, Mongols, etc. make up an incredibly small minority of people that ride Harleys.

That is the flaw of your statement.
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Oh man, At Ease, seriously ... the image you give from yourself if one of a total wussy who looks at his feet everytime a tough guy crosses your way! Man up!

Thats the attitude I'd expect from some born-again, who due to some incident in his early life, is totally scared from what he hears in the news; and feels himself being preyed upon at every corner he turns. Grow some balls ffs! This is just plain hurtful to read!
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