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Michael J Fox on the tv asking for help

Ya know, it's not like I don't want to help, because I would you know, actually like to help.

But I have a solid, fast and reliable cure to all that is ailing Haiti, and we could have the problem solved in a week (maybe faster).

Plane tickets.

Yep plane tickets.

Offer anyone IN Haiti that is suffering due to having been IN Haiti for this tragedy a one way ticket OUT of Haiti. Just the baggage you can carry, and it's one way and here ya go and have a nice life somewhere where the planet isn't trying to kill you.

Think about it, simple, fast and easy. Of course anyone wanting to live in that train wreck of a country SHOULD be told 'should have taken the ticket, sorry this is where I head home'. And just leave them there.

Don't tell me it sounds bloody cold blooded either.
If it was my ass, and it was my country and I was in the same condition, I'd gladly take the ticket and be on my way somewhere else with a smile.

I won't be lining up with offers of cash to rebuild that place. Mother nature was trying to tell them something I think. They should listen. No it wasn't a sign from god, it was someone a lot more real.
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Ya know, it's not like I don't want to help, because I would you know, actually like to help.

But I have a solid, fast and reliable cure to all that is ailing Haiti, and we could have the problem solved in a week (maybe faster).

Plane tickets.

Yep plane tickets.

Offer anyone IN Haiti that is suffering due to having been IN Haiti for this tragedy a one way ticket OUT of Haiti. Just the baggage you can carry, and it's one way and here ya go and have a nice life somewhere where the planet isn't trying to kill you.


Think about it, simple, fast and easy. Of course anyone wanting to live in that train wreck of a country SHOULD be told 'should have taken the ticket, sorry this is where I head home'. And just leave them there.

Don't tell me it sounds bloody cold blooded either.
If it was my ass, and it was my country and I was in the same condition, I'd gladly take the ticket and be on my way somewhere else with a smile.

I won't be lining up with offers of cash to rebuild that place. Mother nature was trying to tell them something I think. They should listen. No it wasn't a sign from god, it was someone a lot more real.
Obama is already talking about "opening the doorway to America" to the Haitians, who would quickly replace those from Mexico and South America. Maybe your prime minister will open up Canada to them as well.
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Last time I checked that was already fairly commonplace (which often irks you guys down south) and I must confess they usually aren't too brilliant about the process.
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I really don't understand, why is everybody rushing to Haiti? It's really surprising to me, I didn't expect anything that much of media bombardment and stuff. I thought we'd ignore it and move on like we usually do. Is Haiti special or what?

To the post below,

I never said that - I believe it's called curiosity.

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I really don't understand, why is everybody rushing to Haiti? It's really surprising to me, I didn't expect anything that much of media bombardment and stuff. I thought we'd ignore it and move on like we usually do. Is Haiti special or what?
I believe this is the second time you've brought this up, Vita. Why don't you just tell us why people should not help Haiti?
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I really don't understand, why is everybody rushing to Haiti? It's really surprising to me, I didn't expect anything that much of media bombardment and stuff. I thought we'd ignore it and move on like we usually do. Is Haiti special or what?
In Australia we call people like you wankers..... but I'm starting to think your use to it.
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In America we try not to rush to be insulting, something Australians are well known for doing.

Vita has a good question. Haiti is a non-event in world terms. Formerly run by dictators, totally corrupt and horribly broke, offering nothing to anyone except poverty, disease and a breeding ground for terrorism until Clinton's little "tourism" road trip, and suddenly it's the only news on the planet.

Earthquakes like this happen constantly without garnering near this much attention.

Are you aware, for example, that Yellowstone National Park, home of the world-devastating Yellowstone Super Volcano, has recorded a total of over 900 quakes recently? IF that blows, a lot more than three million Haitians will die, including you, eventually.

So I will echo Vita's question - while remaining compassionate towards the Haitian people, we are entitled to wonder - why the massive mdia coverage? Not enough suffering in the rest of the world?


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The Haitian earthquake can improve what is one of the poorest nations on earth. However, the same work ethic that turned around Malaysia/Indonesia after their devastating tidal wave five years ago must be applied in order for Haiti to attain some semblance of normalcy. Unfortunately, I don't see the same level of industriousness in the Haitian population as in those from southeast Asia.
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Maybe it's good ocasion to do talk less and do nothing about Tibet, Sudan, Iran and Chaves? Or forget about "Global Warming Conferation" fiasco? BTW I have -20C Behind window now how's temperatures in USA? As warm as in Poland I presume?
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So I will echo Vita's question -
You don't echo Vita's point of contention....
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This is the deadliest natural disaster in the western hemisphere in at least a generation. The number of dead is probably at least twice that of any catastrophy in well over a century. The number of homeless may run to over two million. That tends to get peoples' attention.

If you are a cynic, several others have already mentioned valid political reasons to provide aid.
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Not saying it was, but one can't be blamed for wondering how much 'dictators, totally corrupt and horribly broke, offering nothing to anyone except poverty, disease and a breeding ground for terrorism' is responsible for the sum of the dead.

That same earthquake would have had a very hard time killing 50k people in LA.
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The reason that we all pretend to try to help Haiti is because it is economically poor. The reason we will not actually help Haiti in the long term is because it is economically poor.
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The thing that bothers me is were is the national government. Seems like the Haitian government has disappeared.
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The thing that bothers me is were is the national government. Seems like the Haitian government has disappeared.
Jeez they hardly had a government to start with and a lot of it was wiped out in the quake! Not so hard to understand is it? Like the fact they had a minuscule police force (run and trained by the UN...mostly Canadian Mounties) and no military as was mentioned elsewhere. The country was a basket case before the quake already!
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