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Old 25 Mar 06, 11:04
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[QUOTE=drakos]Hi! Thanks for the positive remark.
I dont have that map. Its a very "specialized" one.
What I have covering Greece is an italian map from -41 printed in Milano.Scale 1: 500.000
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Hi Laszlo!
Glad to hear from You.
Thanks for the interesting maps.
The Stalingrad area is the one that is most difficult to
cover.I have "around the city" in 300.000 D49 and some
maps in scale 2,5 milj covering the roads and rails."Verkehrskarten"
I dont have ex the OKH strategische bersichtskarte
for the area
.I have that for Hungary jan-41 scale 1: 1 milj, a hungarian map in scale 1: 750 000 from -40.and the german grosskarte
Wien-Budapest P49 Q46 ( 6 karten) from aug-37
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Hi Laszlo!
Glad to hear from You.
Thanks for the interesting maps.
The Stalingrad area is the one that is most difficult to
cover.I have "around the city" in 300.000 D49 and some
maps in scale 2,5 milj covering the roads and rails."Verkehrskarten"
I dont have ex the OKH strategische bersichtskarte
for the area
.I have that for Hungary jan-41 scale 1: 1 milj, a hungarian map in scale 1: 750 000 from -40.and the german grosskarte
Wien-Budapest P49 Q46 ( 6 karten) from aug-37
Yours,
Goran
I thank you for the maps!
What I am looking for is the upper left corner of this attached map (south of Voronezs/Voronezh where the Hungarian 2nd army was in defense).

The Hungarian maps I am looking for is the map of Hungary after the Yugoslavian campaign. After that campaign Hungary reached the peak size of the country during WWII, and that was the border until 1945. I am interested in the 1944-45 battles, so I need that borders. The maps you mentioned are all earlier.

Anyway, thanks! And keep up the good works! (Anyway what kind of scanner do you use, I am thinking of buying an A3 scanner, but if there is cheap A0-A2 scanner, that would be better...)

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Hi again. Now I understand better what You want.
The south Woronesh area are covered in
Operationskarte Russland Blatt 2 may-42
bersichtskarte Russland Nord jun-41
bersichtskarte Leningrad-Charkow sept -40
Luftwaffe bersichtskarte Russland Nord/Sd - july -41
but all of these are in scale 1. 1 milj and none goes east of
42 grad.
In 300.000 I have 3 maps ;Zusammendruck z52-a50 Stary Oskol-Starobelsk long 36-40 . Luftwaffe july-42 variant and a stichkarte variant from nov-41.
and b52Borissoglebsk long 40-42
In 100.200 and 500.000 I have nothing this far east.

My scanner is an A3 scanner of quite low quality
but its often enough for maps.A2 would be nice but its too expensive for an amateur like me.And I have some fear for the coming moment when big high quality scanners make it difficult to separate originals from fakes.(When printed out) But as it is now its nearly impossible to ex scan a Zusammendruckkarte about 12 A3 scans and the work to put them together
in ex Photoshop
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Hi again. Now I understand better what You want.
The south Woronesh area are covered in
Operationskarte Russland Blatt 2 may-42
bersichtskarte Russland Nord jun-41
bersichtskarte Leningrad-Charkow sept -40
Luftwaffe bersichtskarte Russland Nord/Sd - july -41
but all of these are in scale 1. 1 milj and none goes east of
42 grad.
In 300.000 I have 3 maps ;Zusammendruck z52-a50 Stary Oskol-Starobelsk long 36-40 . Luftwaffe july-42 variant and a stichkarte variant from nov-41.
and b52Borissoglebsk long 40-42
In 100.200 and 500.000 I have nothing this far east.

My scanner is an A3 scanner of quite low quality
but its often enough for maps.A2 would be nice but its too expensive for an amateur like me.And I have some fear for the coming moment when big high quality scanners make it difficult to separate originals from fakes.(When printed out) But as it is now its nearly impossible to ex scan a Zusammendruckkarte about 12 A3 scans and the work to put them together
in ex Photoshop
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would you post them on your website? It seems I will have time in April to go to the military map archive in Hungary, I know they have maps of the Voronezh region, so I try to get them...

for bigger maps I use the scanning service near me, they scanned the maps I sent, but their top dpi is 400. I found good priced A3 scanner, but now I will look for A2-A0...
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Hi!
Please give a priority list . And long. lat. for the interesting area. Which scale has priority? Which date? These are
very big maps so they are difficult to scan and put together. To scan them all is about 100 scans.The merging programm demands some over lapping in the scans.
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Please give a priority list . And long. lat. for the interesting area. Which scale has priority? Which date? These are
very big maps so they are difficult to scan and put together. To scan them all is about 100 scans.The merging programm demands some over lapping in the scans.
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Well, nothing hurry about it, so when you have time, and one map is more than enough per month so don't worry I will start my Don project after I finish the Hungarian battles, so there is so much time...

here is the coordinates of the Don river-bend where the Hungarians fought.
In the right side you can see the Don river with a double bend (90 degree left, then 90 degree right bend). Voronezh is in the Don river, just to help you to find the river...
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Hi! Very interesting projects You are working with.I wish I could read hungarian.Tell me when You start the Don project.Regarding Hungary; It seems You have contact
with a lot of resources. Its very professional, What maps in detail do You want me to look for?
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Hi! Very interesting projects You are working with.I wish I could read hungarian.Tell me when You start the Don project.Regarding Hungary; It seems You have contact
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anything on the Don river-bend, and Hungary in 1941 would be fine. No problem if you cannot find anything as I have already enough maps, but the more the best
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Planheft 1. 100 000 d posted. See at tdg.nu for text
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Hi goranw. Thank you for your reply. Could you upload for me this italian map you have mentioned? It would be very helpfull for me.
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Hi Drakos! THe map is very big. Nearly impossible to scan. Which area are You most interested in. So I know where to start.
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Good morning Goran. How are you? It is a very good idea to scan a part of the map. The territory I am interested in is, in northern Greece. It is among the cities of, Thessaloniki. Serres, Kilkis and the northern border with Bulgary. This is the area, which the Nazis hit the Metaxa line in 1941. The Metaxa line was so good prepared and organized, that the Nazis could not cross it in any place.The invasion in Greece, was made through Serbia, and the Metaxa line was surrounded from the south. I would like to study this invasion on a military map. Of course it would be better if I had a bigger scale map. How could I find one? Where have you find your maps? Could you find the one I mentioned above? Thank you for your time . Tasos {It is my name}
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