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I wonder, Half Pint, did the bullets the shooter fire only seek out targets who happened to be white, or Christian?

Or did they happen to hit whomever he fired at wearing an Army uniform.
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I doubt that he bothered reading their dog tags.As far as being white? He is white, except in a racist eyes.
Martok makes a good point.

Sorry Half Pint but white, black, brown whatever are used as broad racial classifications. You wouldn't call an Indian a black - even though they may be darker than most blacks; and you don't call an Arab, white, even though they may be 'whiter' than many many Southern Europeans.
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Unfulfilled? Is this a joke?

The guy was "filled" with the love of Allah, and clearly displayed how that love works on the grounds of Ft. Hood.
Precisely! Eyewitnesses observed his statement :"Allahu Akbar" as he
carried out the deed.
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Unfulfilled? Is this a joke?

The guy was "filled" with the love of Allah, and clearly displayed how that love works on the grounds of Ft. Hood.
ok stop. everytime a poster on this board irrationally lashes out at islam its stupid. its no better a religion or worse than any other religion that resides on this planet. just because it is used as a tool by enemies of the west (as christianity has been used in the past by leaders of the west) does not mean it is the relgion itself that is to blame. all abahamic religious texts contained politically incorrect, bigoted, hateful prose. again, all a matter of interpretation.


secondly, he didn't do anything.... yet. He is alleged to have committed a horrendous crime. why should he have less rights than john smith who falsified his insurance returns, or billy bob who smacked his wife? I thank God every day we live in a Republic, not a democracy.

When you starting abridging rights, you lose your freedom. So yes he deserves the same rights as all of us on this board.
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Precisely! Eyewitnesses observed his statement :"Allahu Akbar" as he
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so do you find something wrong with that phrase?


"God is great" or "God is the greatest"?

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ok stop. everytime a poster on this board irrationally lashes out at islam its stupid. its no better a religion or worse than any other religion that resides on this planet. just because it is used as a tool by enemies of the west (as christianity has been used in the past by leaders of the west) does not mean it is the relgion itself that is to blame. all abahamic religious texts contained politically incorrect, bigoted, hateful prose. again, all a matter of interpretation.


secondly, he didn't do anything.... yet. He is alleged to have committed a horrendous crime. why should he have less rights than john smith who falsified his insurance returns, or billy bob who smacked his wife? I thank God every day we live in a Republic, not a democracy.

When you starting abridging rights, you lose your freedom. So yes he deserves the same rights as all of us on this board.
You are simply wrong. The mosty basic real study of the religions themselves and every thing that has been done and claimed in accurately following their strictures will show the fallacy of that claim. The most basic real study of those cultures using "purely scientific and pragmatic" tnets to further their agendas don't come off so well either.

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ok stop. everytime a poster on this board irrationally lashes out at islam its stupid. its no better a religion or worse than any other religion that resides on this planet. just because it is used as a tool by enemies of the west (as christianity has been used in the past by leaders of the west) does not mean it is the relgion itself that is to blame. all abahamic religious texts contained politically incorrect, bigoted, hateful prose. again, all a matter of interpretation.


secondly, he didn't do anything.... yet. He is alleged to have committed a horrendous crime. why should he have less rights than john smith who falsified his insurance returns, or billy bob who smacked his wife? I thank God every day we live in a Republic, not a democracy.

When you starting abridging rights, you lose your freedom. So yes he deserves the same rights as all of us on this board.
Where in the have you been, that you know absolutely nothing about this?

You equate tax evasion with murdering 13 people and wounding thirty-some others?

He didn't do anything? You're lucky it wasn't one of your family or friends he killed.

And you were the onbe who aspired to become a Legionnaire...
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so do you find something wrong with that phrase?


"God is great" or "God is the greatest"?

Just asking.
"The god of Islam who has deemed the Jew, Pagan and Christian worthy of death is great" is a more accurate interpretation of the Islamist use of that statement.
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and you don't call an Arab, white, even though they may be 'whiter' than many many Southern Europeans.
How do you know what I call whom???

What race would you place most Arabs in?

What race is the Major in question. He isn't WASP.
Doesn't look like Mugabe or Tojo. Is he of European stock? A lot of Europeans are darker than he.

Until you can find some thing that fits YOU I well still condsider him White. I don't care for yoou telling me what I should call him.
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so do you find something wrong with that phrase?


"God is great" or "God is the greatest"?

Just asking.
Great phrase in any language. Interesting thing to be shouting
as the bullets were flying, perhaps? In this melding pot of
culture and faith we call the good old USA each should be able
to profess their own faith. That's one of the reasons this great Nation's soldiers fight for freedom amongst a myriad of other reasons.

However, for one to chant such remarks as they execute others,
without cause, is a reprehensible terrorist act, IMHO.
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How do you know what I call whom???

What race would you place most Arabs in?

What race is the Major in question. He isn't WASP.
Doesn't look like Mugabe or Tojo. Is he of European stock? A lot of Europeans are darker than he.

Until you can find some thing that fits YOU I well still condsider him White. I don't care for yoou telling me what I should call him.
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ok stop. everytime a poster on this board irrationally lashes out at islam its stupid. its no better a religion or worse than any other religion that resides on this planet.
just because it is used as a tool by enemies of the west (as christianity has been used in the past by leaders of the west) does not mean it is the relgion itself that is to blame. .
I don't agree.
Almost all terror attacks and about 80% of the warfare today is Muslim in origin. It does in fact, appear to be abnormally useful to the most evil people in the world today.
Where are the Baptist suicide bombers? Where are the Taoist snipers, the Buddhist Drug-lords?

I make no bones about this, and I think that a great deal of pressure ought to be brought to bear on all muslims. Maybe then, one of them will start thinking about doing the right thing and turn informer on these monsters that commit terror attacks for fun and profit.

Where are the brave Muslims fighting AGAINST terror, murder and mayhem?
Show me.
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"The god of Islam who has deemed the Jew, Pagan and Christian worthy of death is great" is a more accurate interpretation of the Islamist use of that statement.
Oh, Okay! Sort of like the Christian teaching of "love thy neighbor etc." Just talk with little action or meaning. Fortunately Christians have always treat Jews and Pagans so fairly. Now a question? How many Gods are there?

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everytime a poster on this board irrationally lashes out at islam its stupid.
No poster on this board has irrationally lashed out at islam, the lashings all have evidence backing them. Your a budding future Hamilton Burger if your going to subitute PC feelygood opinions for evidence.
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Oh, Okay! Sort of like the Christian teaching of "love thy neighbor etc." Just talk with little action or meaning. Fortunately Christians have always treat Jews and Pagans so fairly. Now a question? How many Gods are there?

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Serious question or a troll? Based on historical fact or on the words of zealots and fanatics?

Serious answer based on known history: thousands, at the very least. Quite probably a lot more that we may never even know about, and virtually all of them pre-date the current crop.

So what's your actual point?
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Where in the have you been, that you know absolutely nothing about this?

You equate tax evasion with murdering 13 people and wounding thirty-some others?

He didn't do anything? You're lucky it wasn't one of your family or friends he killed.

And you were the onbe who aspired to become a Legionnaire...
Well the point is that if you start taking away the rights of the clearly guilty, then maybe next week the rights of the mostly clear guilty will be next. Then after that maybe non US citizens residing in this country deserve no rights. After that maybe all arabs in general. Then all blacks. Then all women.........


Everyone in this country no matter WHAT their status, deserves the FULL and PROPER right to a fair trial, amoung other rights, that anyone who has every lived in this country has ever had and enjoyed.


Period. How could anyone argue otherwise?




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