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South Ossetian Conflict Discuss the conflict between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia.

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Old 20 Oct 09, 03:49
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the Ossetian threw the first punch hence they are guilty
- the Kosovars acted the same way in Kosovo...
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Yes it does. but the Ossetian threw the first punch hence they are guilty.
Careful, don´t pin your hopes on something from the EU...

Actually if you really study the history of the region you will see that Georgia tried to add the Ossetians by force already in 1918 and then again in 1991


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Also which is worse dislpacing one person or displacing 100.
Depends on the circumstances, on the motives.

A more in depth analysis of the EU report

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Careful, don´t pin your hopes on something from the EU...

Actually if you really study the history of the region you will see that Georgia tried to add the Ossetians by force already in 1918 and then again in 1991



Depends on the circumstances, on the motives.

A more in depth analysis of the EU report

http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.c...late.html#more
Thanks for the report will have to read it more detailed latter.

One of the arguments seems to be does Ossetia have a right to be an independent country. The question I always have with this is why do the Ossetian have the right for independence and not the Chechnyens. I am not saying the Chechens have a right to indigence but you cant use force to keep a state and then ten or so years latter say someone else cant.

At the rate that some countries are going each city could be a country and I fairly sure that wont work well. The Balkans are by and far the worst example of all of this. Except there I can understand a bit since one side or the other wants to wipe the other side out.
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why do the Ossetian have the right for independence and not the Chechnyens
- because these Chechens, unlike Ukranians or Balts, simply do not want to be independent .
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- because these Chechens, unlike Ukranians or Balts, simply do not want to be independent .
Grozny a city so full of people who didnt want to leave the Russian federation so badly that this is what happened to it.

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Chechnya was also full of terrorists, criminals and other scum. The same happened to them. But I believe the war was Yeltsin fault...

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Grozny..this is what happened to it
- yep, the Chechen terrorists did all that to the city.
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- yep, the Chechen terrorists did all that to the city.
With the help of Lord Voldermort and Darth Vader no doubt.
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No, I think Sauroman (spell?)



Somebody was actually comparing Russia to Holdomor
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- nope ...with the help of Britain and America
Yes of course. The USAF levelled Grozny. Co-ordinated by Sauron using the Ring of power.

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...i actually meant a financial help
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More likely the Saudi's as far as the Islamist insurgents go.
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I seem to recall the US at the time was giving money to Russia.
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More likely the Saudi's as far as the Islamist insurgents go
...but we all know they wouldn't do anything without approval from Washington
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