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White Phosphorus Injuries (Photo)

This casualty was sprayed with burning particles of white phosphorus. Such particles are notorious for very deep burns, sometimes to the bone.



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Wow,that's nasty.And it's from Al Jazeera,so it's got to be true.
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Somebody should have packed the wound with mud before getting him to hospital ASAP
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Ow, wonder why the Geneva convention has gotten rid of that stuff yet.
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Ow, wonder why the Geneva convention has gotten rid of that stuff yet.
It's about the only "smoke" that blocks thermal sights used on many modern weapons and viewers.

I believe it's already a Geneva no-no to deliberately target people with it.
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ban it?it is bad compared to what........?A 50caliber rifle round to the head???A fragmentation grenade???
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Ow, wonder why the Geneva convention has gotten rid of that stuff yet.
Probably because it is so extremely effective.
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they are terrible wounds

if that's what particles do to you, imagine getting hit by a full round,
you would be scarred for life '' if you survived '' yes i agree these sort of weapon's should be totally banned.
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But then we couldn't get away with the "shake and bake" tactics we used in Fallujah. Target the buildings with WP to flush the enemy into the open, then use a battage of HE to take them out. Repeat until done.
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But then we couldn't get away with the "shake and bake" tactics we used in Fallujah. Target the buildings with WP to flush the enemy into the open, then use a battage of HE to take them out. Repeat until done.
I should imagine that after being hit by the W.P they were probably glad when the H.E hit them!!! If ever there was a weapon that should be universally banned it is Phosphorus, absolutely atrocious!
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Heck no, we should bring it back in force. That and do whatever we need to to make it a more potent weapon.
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There are no band on WP as a "smoke" device on the battlefield.

However, if used as a direct weaon against personnel, it is considered a war crime.
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There are no band on WP as a "smoke" device on the battlefield.

However, if used as a direct weaon against personnel, it is considered a war crime.
Exactly How It Should Be Used. Using Chemical Weapons To Directly Harm Aren't Humane. To Protect Soldiers How Isn't It Beneficial (if users are properly equipped.)
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Any weapon, no matter what it contains, can be consider inhumane. Grenades that leave a hole in the side of your body and leave you screaming in agony for an hour before you die from the injury on the medievac. Napham that burns off your skin leaving you screaming in pain for hours before dying from the injury. Shrapnel from artillery or RPGs that leave you hospitalized for a month before you die a painful death from the gangrene in your femur bone. A bullet to the kneecap that leaves you crippled in agony. Those are all screaming nightmare, stomach turning, injuries that I have personally seen or know about.

Which of those weapons that caused those injuries are not humane and should be banned? All of them? None of them?

WP rounds are usually used for marking positions. The smoke is caused from the self igniting reaction to air. Painful slow healing burns will result if any of this gets on your skin. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...nitions/wp.htm

I missed getting hit by a short round that dropped in our overnight camp in Vietnam. Instead of heading straight to the chow line to see if any food was left, I took a detour to check on the line to see what bunkers had been constructed. The short round came roaring in and exploded right where I would have been at that moment. Several pieces of burning WP landed inches from my feet. Thankfully, no one else was close enough to be hit as it the flaming pieces were scattered some 30 meters in all directions of the impact. Needless to say. the company commander was pissed along with the rest of us.

WP, like any weapon that can cause massive screaming in pain violent injury, is nasty stuff period.

I can only think of one thing worse, a kid in high school chemistry that tried to steal a marble size piece of sodium metal by putting it into his pocket. Seconds later, it burst into flames burning a hole in his thigh. Sodium metal reacts violently with exposure to water.
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This is precisely why these things are classified as weapons. I have no sympathy for the enemy. They chose the fight. To then whine about it is to betray their manhood and their religion.

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