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22 Jun 09, 13:01
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
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22 Jun 09, 13:04
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
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22 Jun 09, 13:12
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
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22 Jun 09, 13:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janos
Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
8. Nikita Khrushchev
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Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general  |
22 Jun 09, 13:14
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Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general |
Political commissar with rank of LTG. Check his wikipedia site. |
22 Jun 09, 23:44
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
11. Georgy Zhukov (too obvious?)
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23 Jun 09, 08:39
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
11. Georgy Zhukov
12. Leonid Brezhnev
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23 Jun 09, 11:40
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Originally Posted by Janos
Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
8. Nikita Khrushchev
12. Leonid Brezhnev
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Jeff...seriously dude....political commissars during the Great Patriotic War were not generals - even though their ranks could have general equivalents. They were civilian political authorities given oversight over certain units or sectors of a front. They were not given direct operational control over an army which remained with the generals in question.
There are so many Soviet generals not mentioned - Vatutin, Tolbukhin, Chistyakov, Yeremenko, Timoshenko, Rotmistrov, Popov, Batov, Meretskov - why can't you choose one of them? |
23 Jun 09, 11:55
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Originally Posted by skoblin
Jeff...seriously dude....political commissars during the Great Patriotic War were not generals - even though their ranks could have general equivalents. They were civilian political authorities given oversight over certain units or sectors of a front. They were not given direct operational control over an army which remained with the generals in question.
There are so many Soviet generals not mentioned - Vatutin, Tolbukhin, Chistyakov, Yeremenko, Timoshenko, Rotmistrov, Popov, Batov, Meretskov - why can't you choose one of them?
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While I disagree, I will change my last one.
Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
11. Georgy Zhukov
12. Aleksandr Vasilevsky
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23 Jun 09, 12:55
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Somehow, I do not recall Khrushchev being a general |
Khrushchev was made a general on June 23, 1941 and wore a uniform. This is quoted from the book that I'm currently reading...........
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The.../9780760334348
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23 Jun 09, 13:02
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Can you provide me any info on what army he may have led? Not trying to be a stickler here, Lance....but there are so many Soviet generals worthy of giving some mention to...why mention Krushchev? Or Brezhnev for that matter.... Anyway, I am pretty certain that if one referred to K or B as actual Soviet generals to a Russian audience, they would probably scratch their heads. There is a difference between being a general on the grounds of technicalities or certain provisions established by an act of state and being an actual operational commander.
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Roger, see post #62 above -- I provided a photo of him in uniform. skoblin appears (not trying to speak for him, since I disagree) that only line generals count.
Recommendation: let's end the debate. Somebody name one more general and keep this moving. |
23 Jun 09, 13:06
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Originally Posted by Janos
Roger, see post #62 above -- I provided a photo of him in uniform. skoblin appears (not trying to speak for him, since I disagree) that only line generals count.
Recommendation: let's end the debate. Somebody name one more general and keep this moving.
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Agreed. Sorry about that Janos. Quibbling about details and definitions is a bad habit one picks up debating on Russian forums, like I do on occasion. |
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Military History in Film CO
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Soviet Generals from the Great Patriotic War
1. Konstantin Rokossovsky
2. Budyenny (spellings vary)
3. Nikolay Simonyak
4. Vasily Chuikov
5. Andrei Vlasov
6. Ivan Konev
7. Mikhail Kirponos
8. Nikita Khrushchev
9. Nikolay Vatutin
10. Vasiliy Sokolovsky
11. Georgy Zhukov
12. Aleksandr Vasilevsky
13. Fedor Tolbukhin
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