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14 Jun 09, 07:26
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
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This 'Baker's Dozen' concept gets an unexpected and IMO welcome spin-off. Normally meant as an fun and hasty compilation from all sides that gets your mind going and stirs the imagination by the unexpected inputs, it now comes under scrutiny of its academic validity, perhaps because of the erroneous idea that Baker's Dozen is a serious 'top-ten/twelve/thirteen list' which obviously because of its nature it is not.
I do welcome however the debate which it ensues and will eagerly wade in to join in the fray without however stopping to add to the current Baker's Dozen list 
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 07:32
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Bertrand du Guesclin, or Du Gueselin (c. 1320 – 13 July 1380), "the Eagle of Brittany":
Can't attribute many won field battles to him, but he surely and steadily wore down the English in the Hundred Years War regardless, which should put him on the Great Commanders of History category, on the basis that there are more ways than one, to skin a cat. |
14 Jun 09, 07:38
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Jean Bureau, Sire de Rivière (? - July 5 1463). Charles VII 's master of artillery in the final stage of the Hundred Year's War (assisted by his brother Gaspard Bureau, 1393-1469), when the French artillery, along with the French standing army, finally broke the English.
Knocked down castles and fortified towns like nobody's busness. Also victor of the battle of Castillon, 1453, the final battle of the HYW, defeating one of the Great Commanders of English history, Sir John Talbot, who sometimes get credited wit personally prolonging that war, being just that good.
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14 Jun 09, 07:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MajorSennef
This 'Baker's Dozen' concept gets an unexpected and IMO welcome spin-off. Normally meant as an fun and hasty compilation from all sides that gets your mind going and stirs the imagination by the unexpected inputs, it now comes under scrutiny of its academic validity, perhaps because of the erroneous idea that Baker's Dozen is a serious 'top-ten/twelve/thirteen list' which obviously because of its nature it is not.
I do welcome however the debate which it ensues and will eagerly wade in to join in the fray without however stopping to add to the current Baker's Dozen list |
Ah, sorry, wasn't really paying attention, and not previously familiar with the "baker's dozen" concept.
No one to pay any attention to my musings about relative merit, unless you actually want to, then... 
Having had it pointed out, "the baker's dozen" thing makes perfect sense to me, considering the problems of evaluation. I just reverted there due to the numbering going on. |
14 Jun 09, 07:49
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811 (  +  =  )
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 09:37
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Real Name: Duke of Wellington
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Location: Waterloo
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811 ( + = )
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
5. Valmy 1792
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But for you English, I would have been Emperor of the East
Napoleon to the Captain of HMS Bellerophon, 1815
Field Marshal the Duke of Wellington
Commander in Chief of the Anglo-Allied Army
Fusilier Christian Henri Demoulin, 2e Bataillon du 33eme Regiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
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14 Jun 09, 11:32
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
5. Valmy 1792
6. Battle of Beachy Head (1690)
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"I am Arthur, King of the Britons!"
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14 Jun 09, 11:57
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As great commanders i would say
1) Napoléon
2) Turenne
3) the great Condé
4) Luxembourg
5) Maurice de Saxe
6) Foch
7) Villars
8) Vendôme
9) Davout
10) Du guesclin
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"Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone".
Pyrrhus of Epirus
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14 Jun 09, 12:21
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
Join Date: Aug 2005
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
5. Valmy 1792
6. Battle of Beachy Head (1690)
7. Hastings 1066
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 12:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MajorSennef
7. Hastings 1066
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Rather a norman victory than a french victory.
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"Another such victory over the Romans and we are undone".
Pyrrhus of Epirus
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14 Jun 09, 12:28
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piccolo
Rather a norman victory than a french victory. |
Est-ce que vous etes francais ou quoi?
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 12:29
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Real Name: Steven Mc
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Location: Hamilton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MajorSennef
Est-ce que vous etes francais ou quoi? |
Oi! Speak English. We didn't liberate you just so you could use your own languages on the internet  |
14 Jun 09, 12:31
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: outwaiting the French in Belgium
Posts: 2,608
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
5. Valmy 1792
6. Battle of Beachy Head (1690)
7. Hastings 1066
8. Rocroi 1643
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 12:34
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Real Name: Jeroen Sennef
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fodder76
Oi! Speak English. We didn't liberate you just so you could use your own languages on the internet |
How right you are.
Piccolo, look the mess you got me into...
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you!" - Leon Trotsky, June 1919
Lieutenant Silbermann, 2è bat du 33ème RI
Field Marshal Blücher, Army of the Lower Rhine
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14 Jun 09, 12:37
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Real Name: Duke of Wellington
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Waterloo
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French Military Victories.
1. Austerlitz 1805
2. Bir Hakeim 1942
3. Battle of Fuentes de Onoro 1811
4. First Battle of the Marne 1914
5. Valmy 1792
6. Battle of Beachy Head (1690)
7. Hastings 1066
8. Rocroi 1643
9. Marengo 1800(anniversary today)
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But for you English, I would have been Emperor of the East
Napoleon to the Captain of HMS Bellerophon, 1815
Field Marshal the Duke of Wellington
Commander in Chief of the Anglo-Allied Army
Fusilier Christian Henri Demoulin, 2e Bataillon du 33eme Regiment d'Infanterie de Ligne
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