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Montenegrian volunteers in the Russo-Japanese war

In 1904 there were many Montenegrians all over the world... Almost all of them that were in Russia, joined the fight as volunteers; many came from other countries... This is story about them. There are few books about them like: Dusan Martinovic “Generals from Montenegro in russian army”; Djuro Batricevic “Montenegrians in Russo-Japanese war”...
Also, In 2002 in Russia was published “Montenegrian in russian service – General Bakic”, by A.V.Ganin
http://www.rp-net.ru/store/element.p...E5%ED%E7%E8%E8

Here are their names (some of them) –
Jovan Popovic Lipovac, dr Anto Gvozdenovic, Nedjeljko Lazov Jaredic, Jovan Lazov Plamenac, Rade Šćepanov Gardašević, Pero Djurov Dapcevic, Aleksandar Lekso Saicic, Jošo Stevov Ražnatović, Filip Mirov Radulovic, Rade Lazov Zec, Stevo Nikov Jablan, Petar Savov Jablan, Milan Ivov Rolovic, Dusan Milanov Rolovic, Savo Nikolin Savovic, Savic Nikolin Savovic, Filip Markisin Plamenac, Marko DJurov Spadijer, Marko Ilijin Spadijer, Andrija Bakic, Stevan Lukin Ivanovic, Niko Vukadinov Pejanović, Mišo Novakov Pejanović, Djuro and Aleksa Radunovic, Ilija Radov Strugar, Pero Ivov Strugar, Nikola Vladimirov Petrović (cousin of Knjaz/Prince Nikola I Petrovic)...

I am going to write something about them...
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Jovan Popovic Lipovac
Born in Gradjani, Montenegro 14. june 1856. godine.
In 1875 he was in “Artillary school” (he first was in Moscow University, then he transfered to artilery school), when serb rebellion in Hercegovina started. With his “pobratim”(best translation is “blood brother”), medicine student Anto Gvozdenovic they came from Moscow as volunteers and year leater they were fighting in montenegrian army. War ended 2 years later but Jovan Popovic Lipovac was again volunteer in russian army in 1878. He got medal, St. George 4th grade couse he was first in one charge and perconaly cut turkish comander; and than he got St. George first degree medal because he captured 8 cannons (with turkish soldiers). After this war, he is again as volunteer in army of General Skobeljev in Turkmenia (1879-1880); and than again in 1882 in Ahal-Tekin operations where he was badly wounded (and more medals)... But he did not rest much, same year when he heard that there will be fight in Boka against Austrians he gethered 17 Montenegrians and tried to come to Boka, but was arrested in Serbia (they let him go when they realised that he was russian officer). He came to Montenegro (there were no fightings in Boka) in 1883 and stayed till 1889. He was Prince Nikolas adjutant. In this time he writes poems, translates from russian (Ljermontov...); he published few history/etnografic books and even was actor in theater... In 1887 in Petersburg was published his book „Černogorskije ženščini” (Montenegrian women). He did not cut his connections with Russia, so he went back to Moscow. In 1904 he was Colonel in russian army and all Montenegrians in Moscow knew him...
When war started he gathered Montenegrians and organized them as volunteers...
He was first commander of russian volunteers in Mandjuria...
In this war he was wounded several times and it was miracle that he stayed alive.
First time he was wounded in the head in battle at Vafanku, where he saved russian artilary. Than he was in 4 day battle at Sajdzu, where he hold Sajdzu peak and helped general Stakelberg to retreat. Than he was in charge on Kilalin, where he comanded (as General, now) over 14 000 soldiers and with his actions saved position of russian army in that time. For these btattles he receved more medals and after Kilalin, Tsar sent him saber (golden) and again St. George medal...After this, he was in deffence of Skumiran hill where survived only him and 120 soldiers and he was badly wounded for second time. For this battle he got medal St. Vladimir 3rd grade with swords... In that time in russian military magazine “Invalid” they wrote: “It is posible that Russia will lose this war, it is posible that Russia will be destroyed, it is posible that we will witness the end of the world – but it is not posible to destroy Lipovac. Skurmina is on fire, but Lipovac is not, he still stands!” This hill is now called “Lipovac hill”. When he felt better, he got comand of Arier Guard unit and was in battle at Mugden where he was wounded again. After this battle Tsar promoted Lipovac in General of tsarist guard! About Lipovac and his bravery wrote even japanese and european newspapers (Dayly news, Harold...)
“In this terrible war General Lipovac was in most dangerous positions; he is highly intelegent and strong man that speaks russian, french, english and italian. It is interesting to see this huge man with 33 medals on his uniform.”
He was only officer in russian army with 4 st. George cross medals... And he got golden Obilic medal from Prince Nikola of Montenegro for his actions in this war... After the war he got some land in Crime and lived in Russia, but he was still coming to Montenegro few months every year...
In WWI he was in russian 8 army. Comander of 8 army was General Ratko Dimitriev (Bulgarian) and he was very angry at Lipovac because he spoke openly that Bulgarians are traitors of Slavs. But in his reports, General Dimitriev wrote few times how General Lipovac saved his army. Especially in Beligrad operations and crossing the river Sana in Galicia. He was then transfered in second army where he comanded division but his health was very bad from his wounds... so he never got comand of the army. When revolution started, he was transfered in Petersburg as asistent comander in stuf of General Kornilov. But his health was more and more bad so he retired to his land in south of Russia.In may 1919 comander of french base at Sevastopolj got the order to evacuate General Lipovac and his family. He died in military hospital Val De Gras in Paris 17. august 1919. On his funeral there were members of montenegrian royal family; emissaries of united Kingdom (Yugoslavia), tsarist Russia, french military and Clemanso sent his adjutant...
French and english papers reported about his death...
Because he was close to Romanov family, there were even rumors that he was killed with Romanov family...

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I have to say I've never heard anything before about the military history of Montenegro....
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Dr. Anto Gvozdenovic
Born in 1853. In 1875 was in Moscow as medicine student and same year he came (with Jovan Popovic LIpovac) to fight in Hercegovina and Montenegro against the Turks. Prince Nikola was very happy to see 2 young volunteers from Moscow; but in the end of 1876 he ordered Anto to return to Moscow and finish his studies... But, he was in Bulgaria in 1878 and with General Skobeljev in 1880/81 (Ahal/Tekin).
„For dissobeying order, to be punished, for in most critical moment in battle, as generalstaff doctor, he left General Skobeljev and charged in certain death...“ But he recived many medals in the same time. He retired as General in russian army in 1891. In 1904 he started to organize Montenegrians in Moscow (with Lipovac) and than got call from his good friend General Kuropatkin to join him in Manjuria. Before he went to Manjuria Tsarica Mother Marija Fjodorovna wanted to see him. They talked and she gave him one medalion (with written blessing) – from that time he always carried this medalion around his neck, never took it off and died with it. Medalion is saved and today is in family Gvozdenovic...
In Manjuria, he was as General and Doctor, in unit of General Renenkampf. Soon he was transfered in comand with General Kuropatkin. He was with Kuropatkin all the time helping him in the worst situations, he never betrayed his friend... In that time he was badly wounded. He was 52 and retired for second time.
In 1912 when first balkan war started he came to Cetinje, Montenegro and King Nikola I was happy to see him. He became Kings personal adviser. When WWI started Gvozdenovic was in Paris and french Generals and High Comand offered him to join french army – he acsepted and took french generals uniform. For some time he was in western front and than he heard (got the order) that he is needed urgent in Moscow! That surprised him (because he was hard invalid, and in western front never comanded unit, even he was in first lines...) but he imidiatly said farewell to french and than took boat in Marsele to go to Black Sea and Russia. But war was everywhere so he get off in Saloniki and tried by train to north; Bulgaria entered war... So he turned to Montenegro and for third time arrives in Cetinje in hard times... The rest (more and less) here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anto_Gvozdenovi%C4%87

Died in 1935 in Montenegro.
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Jovan Lazov Plamenac
Born 16.03.1885, Boljevci, Montenegro. He finished infantry officer school in Belgrade and in 1904 he was in Russia. In this war he was 2 times wounded and was promoted to lieutenant. He stayed in russian army till 1906 and got many medals, like St George 3 and 4 grade. In january of 1906 he was in operation in Harbin where he got St Ana 5 grade medal. Than he became member of Petersburg Aero-club... In 1909 he went back to Montenegro; he was in first and second balkan wars (1912-1913) and than he was in Russia again when WWI started. 6. september 1914. he was in Serbia, and he got the same officer rank as in russian army... In 1914 and 1915 he was in every fight his unit had and recived more medals... After Albania, Corfu, he was in Vardar division in Macedonian/Saloniki front. In 1917. he was volunteer for aviation units – he was first in french unit A.B. 522 in Vertekop and than in 1st serbian unit in second serbian army front where he did recon, bombing... De Larsan (4. november 1918) : “Great recon pilot. Expert for fotograph missions. During operations in september with great success he bombed and burned important camps deep into enemy territory...”
After the war he returned in Montenegro; he was no longer in the army. Reason, he was member of “Black hand” from the beginning, and was known as “motenegrian apis/man”.
He lived in his village, when WWII started. He was again in uniform, now in yugoslav army. Rebelion in Montenegro started in july of 1941 and Jovan Plamenac was again in first lines - comunists asked help from him and he did, but when he got sick in the mountaines, they just left him in one battle. Italians shot him (after trial) in Virpazar...
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Nedjeljko Lazov Jaredic
Born in 1882 in Gornje Polje, Montenegro. He was in Serbia when he heard about war in the east. Immediatelly he went to Moscow and Montenegrians (Lipovac and Gvozdenovic) recived him very well. He was respected in first sight... In fight, Jaredic (his friends spoke) did not knew for fear; he always charged like mad and always forward... In one fight he did not want to retreat and he died as true montenegrian warrior, witch his russian officers and friends remembered. When Knjaz (Prince) Nikola was in Russia in 1908. russians were speaking to him about heroic fighting and death of Nedeljko Jaredic. When Nikolas returned to Montenegro, with great proud he spoke to everyone about Nedeljko Jaredic and he informed House of Jaredic that Tsar sent emissary to Montenegro to give all Jaredic medals to his family... His family in that time even did not knew if he was dead or alive, he said nothing about Russia... When diplomat came to old Lazar Jaredic, he officialy gave many medals and talked about his sons death and heroism; Lazar just kissed the medals, with calm face and peacefully. Than diplomat took from his bag money and tried to give it to Lazar. He refused to take it and was surprised. Emissar that came to Montenegro just with this task was confused, so he tried to explane that it is help for family of dead soldier from Tsar. Lazar just said: “I do not eat blood of my son!” Other Montenegrians explained that montenegrian warrior dies only for Honor and Freedom not for money and that Lazar will never take money... Nedeljko Lazov died as true Montenegrian in the battlefield...
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Pero Djurov Dapcevic
Born in Ljubotinj, 1878, in Montenegro.
In 1904 he was already several years in Alaska. He had nice life and good job, but when he heard about war he left everything and with his friends (Montenegrians) went to Manjuria. He showed his bravery in battle at Vafanku, Laojan, Mugden... He was so fearless that he never searched for cover in battle... He was lucky many times but finaly it ended at charge on Saidzu where he was very badly wounded and he survived as miracle...
He stayed and lived in Moscow; had many medals – for ex. St. George 4 grade (number147)...
I have no info about his death, but he was in Moscow high circle sociaty and got some land from Tsar...
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Aleksandar (Lekso) Saicic
Born in Vasojevice tribe, Northern Montenegro, 5. august 1873.
He finished Infantry officer school in Belgrade and returned to Cetinje, Montenegro (“...as son of a Hero and from heroes House and Family, to be as soon as posible soldier and warrior...”)
He was in Vasojevic brigade for 3 years. But, Lekso wanted to perfect and test his skills, so he decides to go to Istanbul and he stays there for 3 years as lieutenant in sultans emperial gourd. Then he is in Russia, in russian army as lieutenant... And in 1904 he was Captain very soon... He was wounded 3 times – at JunDzuAn, PayAnCanj (Corea) and near city Mugden... About this man, there are many legends even today, especialy about his saber fighting skills, but I am going to skip that and stay with proven facts!
He was commander of one cavalry escadron in Amur Dragun Polk of Colonel Madridov. In some saved photos (like my avatar) we can see that he has St Vladimir with swords 2 grade; first and second St Ana; II and III St Stanislav and so on...
In 1905 Japanese admiral Togo sent letter to russian admiral Rozenstvenko (near Vladivostok). He asked for one Russian to come for a duel with his samurai infront of both armies... To shorten this, Captain Saicic came and cut the head of this samurai... His saber from this duel is now in Moscow in museum... After this, his friends started to call him “Muromec of new age”.
After the war Aleksandar came to Cetinje and stayed and got married. He was adjutant of Prince Nikola I. In 1910 house of Prince Nikola was on fire, burning – Captain Saicic came and took wet towel and put it on his head and went into fire to the second flor. He saved what he could and than jumped to the ground. He hurt his internal organs and there was no way he could survive... He died 7. april 1911. in Cetinje. From the letter of his family we know that there were 3 russian Colonels at his funeral – Potapov, Egorev and Kolosov (his friends)...
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I have to say I've never heard anything before about the military history of Montenegro....
If you look in the member list under the threads that Djordjije has started you will find a wealth of information that he has shared regarding Serbian and Montenegran military history. He has exposed many of us English speakers to a rich cultural history that is not readily available in print in English. If you found this thread interesting I'm sure you will find many of his other contributions facinating...........
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Joso Stevov Raznatovic
Born in 1885 in Drusici, Montenegro.
In 1902 he was in Istambul, and soon decides to go to Russia. There he found many Montenegrians... When he heard that war started he came to Lipovac and when he saw Lipovac in russian Colonel uniform he just stand still infront of this old soldier. Lipovac tried to explain to Joso that he is too young but he just said that he puts himself under Colonels command... Lipovac had no choice but to take Joso in his unit of volunteers... In his first battle, at Vafanku he proved himself to Lipovac and in 4 days battle at Sidzu, Lipovac later spoke, he looked at Joso as he was his own son... Lipovac ordered Joso not to charge so bravely, but for Joso it was one reason more to be more brave... At Skumrin hill, when Lipovac was badly wounded and saved himself only with 120 of his soldiers – he saw Joso dieing badly wounded. (He spoke about this years later). Lipovac said that he hardly recognized Joso – than he took off his generals uniform and covered the body... But before Japanese came to the hill, one russian medical unit arrived. They saw generals uniform and thought that it is russian general so they took him from the battlefield. He was transfered to the hospital in Krim and the doctors still thought that he had no chance for recovering. He was almost dead when Emperor Mother Maria Fiodorovna came to hospital. She saw young soldier and asked doctors about him. They said that he is from Montenegro... She kissed him and gave money to the doctors for his funeral and left... But, after long healing, Joso survived his wounds!
In 1908 when Prince Nikola was in Montenegro he knew about Joso and he asked to see him; he wanted Joso to come back to Montenegro „You proved yourself to me fighting for our brothers!“ But Joso said „Master, I’ll come to Montenegro only when I hear that you are in war against the Turks!“ – „Than I am going to see you very soon“ Nikola said. (Montenegrians called their rulers only „Master/Lord“, nothing more...)
When first balkan war started in 1912, even as invalid, Joso came to Montenegro. He was officer in Skadar front, he died heroicly at Tarabos hill... When he died he had russian St. George medal and Turks took it from his body, but even today in House of Raznatovic they saved many of his medals from Russia... When Russians heard about his death they sent to their embasy in Cetinje all of his medals, sabers... to give to his family...
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Born 1870 in Pazici, Montenegro.
He finished artilary school in Petersburg and in 1904 joined russian army. He proved himself from the beginning and soon he was commander of Polk in russian army... At Port-Arthur he was wounded but never left his unit; his russian soldiers called him „Filip Černogorskij” (Filip Montenegrian). He was in battle at Mugden and in naval battle at Susimac, where he was wounded badly again... He got St George II grade and many more medals. After the war he was known as a man that liked to help everyone (medal means that he got money for each medal – for ex. for St. George 70 rubles every month). In 1912 he arrived in Montenegro and he was fighting again – he got highest war medal of Montenegro Golden Obilic medal... In second balkan war he activated himself as officer again and fought against Bulgarians in battle at Bregalnica. Than he was in WWI and in great Mojkovac battle... In all the wars and battles he was wounded many times and he did not care for this wounds and never asked for medical help... He died in Pazici in 1924 and till last day he did not took off 4 russian and 3 montenegrian medals...
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Rade Lazov Zec
Born in 1870. Pobori, Montenegro.
He was in Moscow and knew Gvozdenovic and Lipovac and joined them as volunteer...
He was in battle at Vafanku and for his actions in battle at Laoyan he was promoted to officer and got St. George medal. In battle at Saidzu he personally captured samurai and said that it is his alive present to Tsar. For this he got his second St. George cross and from Tsar golden saber. He used this saber with great pride and at Mugden (1905) in charge he cuts 5 japanese soldiers... Kilalan, Skumirin... He got many rewards after the war... He was back in Montenegro in 1909 and got married (3rd time). He was well known in Montenegro, and one time when prince Nikola called him and he arrived with 2 St. George medals on his uniform, Nikola just said “You are great hero and it is shame that you got 2 highest russian medals and not one of mine!” so he gave him 2 montenegrian medals for bravery to have next to russian. At first balkan war he went to Skadar front wearing russian officer uniform! He died as hero at Tarabos, standing (in barb wire) in russian uniform...
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Stevo Nikov Jablan
Born in 1871 in Dobrsko selo, Montenegro.
He was in Macedonia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia and than he came to Russia, to work in Sibiria and back to Moscow. Stevo was tough highlender, he did not even knew to read, so he asked his friends (Lipovac...) to explain to him this war in the east... They did not need to much time for that and he joined them. He was wounded many times and in one battle he was badly wounded (from artilary fire, he had destroyed nose and wound at the head), he lost his right eye. He got many medals...Than he came back to Montenegro, got married, and joined the army again in 1912. He was again wounded and almost lost his leg at Tarabos. At WWI he was again wounded in the same leg and he lost that leg... In WWII he could not rest, and his house was known as safe base for every fighter... He lived a long life and died age 91 in 1962.
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Milan Ivov Rolovic
Born 1845 in Crmnica, Montenegro.
He was tough man. When he was very young he became tribe leader in Crmnica (Montenegro) and in 1879 Captain of town Ulcinj. In war against the Turks 1876 with small group of warriors he captured large group of turkish soldiers. When Prince Nikola heard that he wanted to reward them and than he looked at Milan and said „Why is Comander Rolovic not happy“ he replied „I want officer rank, not medals and rewards, Master!“ – „It is done as you wish, Captain Rolovic!“ His son Dusan was in military academy in Petersburg in 1904 and Milan came to Russia to see his son. First thing he said to his son was „Do not come back to me without higher officer rank and medals!“ Then he visited Moscow and he was with Lipovac and Gvozdenovic when they heard about war. He asked them are they going to fight and when they said Yes, he just said „I belong there too, than!“ He became officer in 14. rifle kavkaz polk and later Colonel. But his fight ended soon... One night he was, with his unit, in some village in Mandjuria. Peasants informed Japanese and helped them to encircle the village. In fighting that started only Milan and 2 of his officers survived... He could not stand that and few days later (with group of his friends, also volunteers) he came back to that village and killed everyone – japanese soldiers and then peasants young/old, women and men! When russian Tsar heard about this crime he was very angry and signed order for this officer to be shot in front of russian soldiers! Milan was prepared to die, but General Kuropatkin said to him to write letter to russian Tsar and Lipovac also wrote... They explained that in this mans view, montenegrian view, to betray trust, and to brake your own word is the worst and biggest crime (and gets biggest punishment in Montenegro) – oldest human low... So than Tsar did not know what to do... Finaly he gave order to be proclaimed to the army that Colonel Rolovic is shot and Rolovic was put alive in the coffin and like that he came back to Montenegro... Rolovic stayed in Montenegro some time and then he traveled to France, northern America and came back in 1912 where he fight as Captain in the montenegrian army. He was next to his Master till the end, in France, and than came back to Montenegro where he died in 1940. From Russia and Mandjuria he brought – St. George 4 grade; St. Ana 4 grade; saber for bravery; St Stanislav with swords...

His son Dusan was also in this war... When revolution started he openly came in front of his higher officers and said that he is for the “Reds”! He was killed by his russian friends for that...

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