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In their own words... Human Shields

A simple counter to the (apparent) one sided propoganda war that seems to have started.

Please note that this pretty much confirms every truth and predjudice about Hamas, both its methods and its aims.



Anyone care to try and refute this?

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Wow

Just wow. Will the madness please stop?
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I saw a picture explaining the situation:
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The man didn't say that Hamas is using human shields.
Literally, he said that the women, children and the elderly are voluntarily acting as human shields to defend their country.
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I saw a picture explaining the situation:
I doubt any Israeli soldier would be that brave to fight a Palestinian face to face. It has never actually happened. u can't bring me such a picture from real life. Meanwhile, I can bring you a real life picture of a Palestinian child fighting face to face an Israeli tank.

By the way, I can bring you as well the coverage of an Israeli tank which has smashed a 5 months old baby.

Today in the news a dad was telling the horrifying story of an Israeli soldier shooting face to face with cold blood from few meters distance on purpose 2 of his daughters, one received 17 bullets, the other 12.
And there was no Hamas militant hiding behind them...
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The man didn't say that Hamas is using human shields.
Literally, he said that the women, children and the elderly are voluntarily acting as human shields to defend their country.
Voluntary "Human Shields" are legitimate targets aren't they ??????? They are aiding the terrorists of their won free will - they therefore are enemy combatants just as if the were shooting a rifle at the Israeli forces.

I can tell you this -- just speaking for myself -- If I thought someone was being forced to become a human shield, I would do all I could to avoid shooting them - but if I knew them to be a human shield voluntarily - I'd mow them down as fast as i could to get to the terrorist -- just a personal choice for me
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I doubt any Israeli soldier would be that brave to fight a Palestinian face to face. It has never actually happened. u can't bring me such a picture from real life. Meanwhile, I can bring you a real life picture of a Palestinian child fighting face to face an Israeli tank.

By the way, I can bring you as well the coverage of an Israeli tank which has smashed a 5 months old baby.

Today in the news a dad was telling the horrifying story of an Israeli soldier shooting face to face with cold blood from few meters distance on purpose 2 of his daughters, one received 17 bullets, the other 12.
And there was no Hamas militant hiding behind them...
Try not to be ridiculous !
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Meanwhile, I can bring you a real life picture of a Palestinian child fighting face to face an Israeli tank.

By the way, I can bring you as well the coverage of an Israeli tank which has smashed a 5 months old baby.
Where were the parents of the two children you describe? What kind of culture would send out a boy to fight a tank?

Ever see the aftermath of rocket attacks which started the present conflict?

I would be more impressed with adult male "Freedom fighters" being seen fighting the Israelis. Why aren't they in the front line?

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Where were the parents of the two children you describe? What kind of culture would send out a boy to fight a tank?

Ever see the aftermath of rocket attacks which started the present conflict?

I would be more impressed with adult male "Freedom fighters" being seen fighting the Israelis. Why aren't they in the front line?

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That's asking a little much Pruitt -- there is an element of danger involved in an Adult Male "Freedom Fighter" confronting the Israeli's -- you don't actually expect these terrorist Hamas cowards to do that do you ??

They prefer to hide behind the skirts of the women and loiter near children while firing rockets indiscriminately from populated areas so that any retaliation will kill civilians rather than these "brave' champions of freedom. <sigh>

They are truly disgusting vermin that need to be eradicated.
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I would be more impressed with adult male "Freedom fighters" being seen fighting the Israelis. Why aren't they in the front line?
I think they're under that hospital in Gaza City, peeing their pants, praying to Allah that world opinion will convince the Israelis not make the final push to get at them. But thats just my opnion.
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I think they're under that hospital in Gaza City, peeing their pants, praying to Allah that world opinion will convince the Israelis not make the final push to get at them. But thats just my opnion.
An opinion that is shared by me

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Voluntary "Human Shields" are legitimate targets aren't they ??????? They are aiding the terrorists of their won free will - they therefore are enemy combatants just as if the were shooting a rifle at the Israeli forces.

I can tell you this -- just speaking for myself -- If I thought someone was being forced to become a human shield, I would do all I could to avoid shooting them - but if I knew them to be a human shield voluntarily - I'd mow them down as fast as i could to get to the terrorist -- just a personal choice for me
U R right

Voluntary human shields r fighters and they've chosen to be targeted as fighters.

God bless them

Brave people

Ethically, u r right to fire at them if u r in a defensive position.

Rediculously, the most aggressive criminal army in the world calls itself a (defence) army, and considers its invasion to others' land, shelling schools and ambulances, bombarding houses and universities a (defensive) action.

And finally, the world has to ask itself why a (child) or a (woman) chooses to be a human shield ????

Definitely, it is a culture different from another which enables an ex-terrorist and gang member lady to be a secretary of foreign affairs and a candidate to be a prime minister.
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U R right

Voluntary human shields r fighters and they've chosen to be targeted as fighters.

God bless them

Brave people

Ethically, u r right to fire at them if u r in a defensive position.

Rediculously, the most aggressive criminal army in the world calls itself a (defence) army, and considers its invasion to others' land, shelling schools and ambulances, bombarding houses and universities a (defensive) action.

And finally, the world has to ask itself why a (child) or a (woman) chooses to be a human shield ????

Definitely, it is a culture different from another which enables an ex-terrorist and gang member lady to be a secretary of foreign affairs and a candidate to be a prime minister.
Here is the thing hamasian -- You are calling the IDF a criminal army because they are trying very hard to root out the Hamas Terrorist who have been shooting rockets and missiles across the border from their little former sanctuary.

How can you classify the actions of the Israeli Army as criminal ?? They are defending their homeland - their country and all its citizens. They have every right -- and in fact, an OBLIGATION to go where Hamas is hiding - root them out and either capture or kill every one of them. They are terrorists - plain and simple.

Yes - what Israel is doing is very clearly a defensive action. They didn't start this mess - they are only trying to finish it - once and for all.
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Where were the parents of the two children you describe? What kind of culture would send out a boy to fight a tank?

Ever see the aftermath of rocket attacks which started the present conflict?

I would be more impressed with adult male "Freedom fighters" being seen fighting the Israelis. Why aren't they in the front line?

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The parents must have been looking for a shelter for the family, seeking food in the streets of Gaza, or helping a wounded family member.

Actually in this incidence, the mother was killed as well.

I've seen the aftermath of the rockets:
- A woman scared about her puppy which is in panic
- A woman on her mobile phone carried by a rescuer and I can't see a spot of blood on her.
- A man checking a broken window.

in contrast to pictures from Gaza of:
- Torn human parts everywhere
- Bodies burnt by forbidden weapons
- A man carrying the bodies of his 3 dead children
- A woman mourning her baby (born after 21 years of infertility) who was killed in her arms.
- The yard of a UN run school full of dead bodies
- An Israeli tank smashing a 5 months old baby.

About the male adult freedom fighters, they are 2/3 of the victims as revealed by statistics and the news of their fierce fighting with the war criminals is all over the press if u can read.

It is very rediculous again to say that the rockets started the conflict as if it all started in 2004.

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Israel officially said that she can't get rid of Hamas. She is just (terrorizing) them by the official words.

1 billion dollars and thousands of casualties to (terrorize) Hamas.

As the operations continue,the Israeli leaders keep on lowering the ceiling of their expectations from getting rid of Hamas to disarmament of Hamas to stopping the rockets and now just terrorizing.

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