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Old 28 Nov 08, 12:18
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And I know people who would do it to not serve in the Swedish army, what is yourpoint?
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And I know people who would do it to not serve in the Swedish army, what is yourpoint?
You are so far from Soviet and post-Soviet realities that there is no use explaining.

The idea of being recruited to the RF army is among the worst nightmares for the absolute majority of Russian youths and their parents.

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You are so far from Soviet and post-Soviet realities that there is no use explaining.

The idea of being recruited to the RF army is among the worst nightmares for the absolute majority of Russian youths and their parents.
Ukranian army too, my cousin who lives in the Ukraine paid a bribe not to go.
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Old 28 Nov 08, 14:11
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You are so far from Soviet and post-Soviet realities that there is no use explaining.
HAHA very comical, why not?you don´t think i am aware of that? You know, I was looking for a way to join the RF army for a while, don´tyou thinkI heard about it, don´t you think I know people in the army and that was in the army?

And how can you be so sure that there is no hassling in the Swedish army?
Whats left of it that is. Soviet times yes my ucle and father did there service then, they would surtenly have preferd to be somewhere else.

As for the record they wasn´t hassled, but they know of people who was.
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Ukranian army too, my cousin who lives in the Ukraine paid a bribe not to go.
Got a friend that currently lives in Sweden that is going to be drafted into the Ukraine army and he is not looking foward do it.
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Ukranian army too, my cousin who lives in the Ukraine paid a bribe not to go.
Bribing is the waste of money in such cases in Ukraine after 1990s.
Ukrainian army has been reduced more than 8 times since the early 1990s so the number of those who don't mind serving is sufficient for recruitment. Today one can just ignore these letters from Voenkomats, the practices of catching such persons by police and sending them to the army are mainly quitted in Ukraine while the situation in the RF is absolutely different. Russian government even plans to make present-day students serve in the Army

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Bribing is the waste of money in such cases in Ukraine after 1990s.
Ukrainian army has been reduced more than 8 times since the early 1990s so the number of those who don't mind serving is sufficient for the necessary number of recruitment. Today one can just ignore these letters from Voenkomats, the practices of catching such persons by police and sending them to the army are mainly quitted in Ukraine while the situation in the RF is absolutely different. Russian government even plans to make present-day students serve in the Army
Well it was in the 1990's. My other younger cousin paid too. I think they each had to pay ~$700, most of it was paid by my family here.
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Now it is a long time since I spoke to my friend but I remember he said that he "had" to do it.
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HAHA very comical, why not?you don´t think i am aware of that? You know, I was looking for a way to join the RF army for a while, don´tyou thinkI heard about it, don´t you think I know people in the army and that was in the army?

And how can you be so sure that there is no hassling in the Swedish army?
Whats left of it that is. Soviet times yes my ucle and father did there service then, they would surtenly have preferd to be somewhere else.

As for the record they wasn´t hassled, but they know of people who was.

Yeah, sure, you know everything. I wish you success in joining the RF army. It is to help in cleaning your brains
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Yeah, sure, you know everything. I wish you success in joining the RF army. It is to help in cleaning your brains
Now if there was only an easy way like this to "clean" yours...
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No it would not, contract soldiers has it far better then conscipts.

But even reality is there, I could not join for medical reasons as it looks now.

At the moment I would prefer not to join anything if you excuse me.
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Now if there was only an easy way like this to "clean" yours...
If you mean to "clean" in a sence of becoming Homo Sovieticus and Russian-Soviet patriot like you then I'd like to dissapoint you there are no such ways.
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Homo Sovieticus isn´t that a "race"? Well neither me or Emil has the r"acial" means to be part of the Homo Sovieticus.
I belive you are dead wrong here.
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If you mean to "clean" in a sence of becoming Homo Sovieticus and Russian-Soviet patriot like you then I'd like to dissapoint you there are no such ways.
No, I mean fix your dire internal poverty that leads you to your extreme views.
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No, I mean fix your dire internal poverty that leads you to your extreme views.
You are mistaken. Dire internal poverty leads to moderate views.
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