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South Ossetian Conflict Discuss the conflict between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia.

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Problem with posting lists . . .

They hide all the important details. Now if you don't want to talk about something, posting a laundry list and watching everyone trip over themselves trying to refute it is a great way to get the thread to melt down into circular arguements. Politicans do it all the time.

Now if you have one clear example that demonstrates a great deal of parallelism between an historical event and a near future scenario in which the risks of invading a nuclear power are acceptable please provide it as that would help to focus our discussion rather than diverting it into fruitless blind pathways.

Please note however that no matter how great the internal consistency and rigor of our discussion, humans are notoriously inconsistent. If it were otherwise, historians would write tomorrows news and journalists would be unemployed.
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hpe no one is waiting with baited breath for Lodestar to answer, you wont hear from him again.........

...must support Collingwood or something..?
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Yes Im sure Lodstars's thread title is being shown with great horror around various paranoid Russian nationalist groups as we speak.. Look there talking about getting us again. I told you so!
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...yeah, or at the very least, the Collingwood supporters trust of Russia...hee hee..!
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hpe no one is waiting with baited breath for Lodestar to answer, you wont hear from him again.........

...must support Collingwood or something..?
Er.... what can I say? I have tried several times to explain that time constraints make it difficult for me to post on a regular basis.
I even offered some months ago to stop posting altogether as my low response level seemed to be upsetting others.

My questions are I hope thought provoking and of some current interest. Can't promise anything else. Am working on a ACG WWII forum post about Airborne units being a wasteful extravagence so you might want to check it out later.

Just for the record I'm a Saints supporter and believe me we are gonna keep at it ubtil we get it right one more time, wven if it's by just one point yet again!!

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That russia is not a poor defensiveminded country is a fact,not propaganda.
I will not fall for sobstories copied from communist propaganda during the cold war.I have heard it all before.
Tigerivan has it absolutely right. The Ukraine and Poland are targets for good ole mother russia. Putin is putting his military into high gear putting surface to surface short range ballistic missiles in the rebelling provinces and stationing protective SAMs around them. Withdrawal my....fanny. They intend to stay and eventually absorb all of Georgia. Next will be the Ukraine.
Not an easy swallow but they will try just the same.

NATO for a change is talking a little tough but probably not tough enough. Kicking Russia out of the elite Big 8 Economic Powers is not enough to keep Putin from his dreams. Medved is just a stooge. What would happen if the Russians attack Tiblisi with missiles? How would the US and NATO react?
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Er.... what can I say? I have tried several times to explain that time constraints make it difficult for me to post on a regular basis.
I even offered some months ago to stop posting altogether as my low response level seemed to be upsetting others.

My questions are I hope thought provoking and of some current interest. Can't promise anything else. Am working on a ACG WWII forum post about Airborne units being a wasteful extravagence so you might want to check it out later.

Just for the record I'm a Saints supporter and believe me we are gonna keep at it ubtil we get it right one more time, wven if it's by just one point yet again!!

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59 thread starts out of 151 total posts? hmmmm
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..yeah, but, he says he supports the Saints....i cant get too angry at him now, ...i guess...!
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Well if Ukraine join nato, we are within spitting distance of moscow, a few hundred miles.
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oh, ...now you are opening a can of worms, and giving the Russians the ammo they need to invade..i do agree with you though, Ukraine now is absolutely critical, we must make haste to ensure we are not suprised by the Russian again...!
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And they make for a powerfull new friend too, they have a powerfull military, its more than the russian would tussle with, plus where ukraine is concerned russias black sea moorings are dangling by a thread, the loss of them would render the black sea much more hospitable, russia will live to regret this conflict i think, lmao
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They intend to stay and eventually absorb all of Georgia. Next will be the Ukraine.
Not an easy swallow but they will try just the same.
Quite right...then will come the Baltic states...after that...Poland...then Romania....then the Balkans will fall under Putin's boot...followed by Hungary and Austria....it is beginning....the dominoes are falling...it is only a matter of time before Russian troops are on the Rhine looking over at a defenseless Mother France and licking their chops at the thought of all those helpless French girls...
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Intervening in Russia a Western perennial

Posting this again just to make mischief.

The more things change hey?

Seriously, who thinks that, sooner or later, 'we' will try something really stupid (an intervention of some sort) in regards to Russia again, just because it seemed like a good and noble idea at the time and because the Russia's looked like they couldn't do much about it.?
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Clean your rear view mirror

The actual history of the past six years has run in rather the opposite direction.

Or perhaps it is time to take up sailing? I feel a warm (and somewhat stale) breeze from direction of lodestar.
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Strange thread. An invasion of Russia would be considered an existential threat to the russian state, moscow would defend with nuclear weapons. For as long as humanity possesses nuclear weapons there will never be another invasion of Russia.
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