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29 Jun 08, 06:13
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Trenches from Switzerland to the Sea
Conventional history tells us that The Trench lines of WW1 stretched from the Alps to the Sea. Does anyone have any clues as to what the northern and southernmost extents of the trench lines actually looked like? How close to the coast did the fighting get? A quick bit of research tells me that the Frontline on the North Sea/channel coast was somewhere around Ostend. I have a bizzare picture in my head of Trenches on the Beach. What actually happened there?
Likewise how did the trench line finish in the South? Did they run right up to the Swiss Border? Was there a "Race to the alps" in the same manner as the "Race to the Sea"?
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29 Jun 08, 07:25
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It remains an intriguing question, doesn't it?
We have covered this issue in WW1 trivia, you may wish to browse there further: http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=668047. This is what I found there for the Swiss end (no Alps  ), a picture of the North Sea end probably will be there as well.
As far as I recall, there was no established 'race to the Alps' as there has been a 'race to the sea', as the 'jump off' positions of both parties were so close to the Swiss border.
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Last edited by Major Sennef; 29 Jun 08 at 07:41..
Reason: effort to diminish size of picture
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29 Jun 08, 11:58
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Trenches actually untill Nieuwpoort at the Belgian coast.
On the 10th of July 1917 the German Marinekorps Flandern took the British bridge head at Nieuwpoort.
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29 Jun 08, 12:36
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Have you got any pictures of the North Sea end of the trenches, Regulus?
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29 Jun 08, 18:15
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To be honest, I've got tons of them on the German side...
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German officers on the 10th of July 1917, just before the Operation Strandfest, attack on the Aliied bridge head.
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Barbarakuppe fortifications
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29 Jun 08, 18:20
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German Hexenkessel fortifications
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29 Jun 08, 18:22
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30 Jun 08, 04:56
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Bravo Guys, Brilliant stuff. I really didn't believe that I would see a picture of Trenches in the sand dunes, but it goes to show that reality is always better than what we imagine.
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30 Jun 08, 05:06
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In that first photo...is that snow on the sand?
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30 Jun 08, 08:54
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Yes that's snow indeed !
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10 Jul 08, 21:54
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well that's already a long time ago, because we haven't had alot of snow since ages!
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I know about the race for the coast in 1914/15 but was there ever an attempt to assault in force on the coastal areas or even on the beaches?I've not heard it myself.
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