Sturer Emil

[Tom D]

12.8cm Selbstfahrlafette L/61....

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_128mm/index.html

Great photos:

http://ostpanzer.asty.ru/topics/sp_g...il/images.html

http://ostpanzer.asty.ru/topics/sp_g...l/images2.html

[Achtung Baby]

Interesting links Tom, thanks!

Despite the fact this AFV carried a limited number of ammunition, it was one devastating gun to be mounted on a chassis. I think all the Allies would be thankful this AFV wasn't mass produced.

From Achtung Panzer;

Design of Selbstfahrlafette 12.8cm was based on Henschel's prototype of Panzer IV' successor - VK3001(H). In March of 1941, two VK3001(H) were ready to be converted into heavy anti-tank gun carriers - Panzerjagers. Rheinmetall-Borsig provided the 128mm PaK 40 L/61 gun for the main armament, which was developed in 1939, from 128mm Flak gun. Both chassis had to be modified in order to mount heavy 128mm gun. Major modifications consisted of the enlargement of the chassis (addition of one road-wheel, extension of the hull) and addition of the heavily armored open-top compartment mounted over the engine compartment. Fighting compartment was mounted in the rear of the vehicle and housed powerful 128mm anti-tank gun with limited traverse of 7 degrees to the left and to the right. Space inside the fighting compartment operated by the crew of five, allowed storage for only 15 to 18 rounds. One 7.92mm MG34 was mounted in the hull for local defence.

From August of 1941 to March of 1942, Rheinmetall-Borsig and Henschel produced two prototypes, which were troop tested in Russia in mid 1942. Both prototypes performed successfully but the development of this project was cancelled in favour of Tiger I. One of Selbstfahrlafette 12.8cm (pictured above) saw service with 521st schwere Panzerjaeger Abteilung and second one with 2nd Panzer Division as late as July of 1942. One of two prototypes (from 2nd Panzer Division) was destroyed in combat, while other one (from 521st sPzJagAbt with 22 kills rings painted on the gun barrel) was captured intact in January of 1943 in Stalingrad area. It was shown at the captured equipment exhibitions in Moscow's Gorky Park in 1943 and 1944. Vehicles were named "Max" and "Moritz" after characters in Busch's classic children's story. Today, the one captured by the Red Army can be seen in the Museum of Armored Forces in Kubinka (Russia).

[Tom D]

I read this SP had two-pice ammo...like the Jagdtiger. It's even more interesting that the Flak version of the 12.8cm was a one piece round.

[KGPanzerschrecK]

Great site. Thanks for the link. Ive never seen any of those pics. Thanks again. Rep this man!

[lufttiger]

Were there only two of these made?

[Tom D]

http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/s...rieostatni.htm

[Achtung Baby]

Thanks for the links Tom, I plan on making a model of one of these nasty buggers one day!

It was an SP that would have caused a lot of headaches if mass produced.

[TRDG]

It's a good model to build, I just did one not to long ago. But to be historically accurate, no camo paint, just the Pz dark grey, very bland for my taste, but a cool kit all the same!!

[Charles Markuss]

[QUOTE=achtung baby;753057]Interesting links Tom, thanks!

I think all the Allies would be thankful this AFV wasn't mass produced.

Another egg-shell armed with a sledge hammer...

Had the German built more of these, perhaps the war might have ended sooner.

[Achtung Baby]

Originally Posted by Charles Markuss

Another egg-shell armed with a sledge hammer...
Had the German built more of these, perhaps the war might have ended sooner.

You've taken my quote the wrong way but that's ok... we each have an opinion.

[Charles Markuss]

My apologies - I am often insensitive to irony; probably something I need to work on!

[cyberia]

Originally Posted by achtung baby

Thanks for the links Tom, I plan on making a model of one of these nasty buggers one day!

It was an SP that would have caused a lot of headaches if mass produced.

I built the 1/35 Trumpeter version two years ago. Great kit with tons of detail.