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View Poll Results: Who Would YOU Choose?
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Adolphus
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62.16% |
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Wellington
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37.84% |
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25 Jul 07, 15:31
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Real Name: Brian King
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Cheyenne Mountain
Posts: 8,412
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Adolphus vs. Wellington (Round 4)
Here are some basic facts for each player to help you in your voting (From Wikipedia):
Gustavus Adolphus
As a general, Gustav Adolf is famous for employing mobile artillery on the battlefield, as well as very aggressive tactics, where attack was stressed over defense and mobility emphasized over the usual linear tactics. His musketeers were widely known for their shooting accuracy and reload speed, three times faster than any contemporary rivals. Carl von Clausewitz and Napoleon Bonaparte considered him one of the greatest generals of all time. He was famed for consistency of purpose, and amity with his troops.
Wellington
Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, KG, GCB, GCH, PC, FRS (c. 1 May 1769 – 14 September 1852) was an Anglo-Irish British Army soldier and statesman, widely considered one of the leading military and political figures of the first half of the 19th century. Commissioned an ensign in the British Army, he rose to prominence in the Napoleonic Wars, eventually reaching the rank of field marshal.
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29 Jul 07, 22:02
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Real Name: Dick Largest
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: TX
Posts: 1,095
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Gustavus.
He gave more to the practice of warfare than Wellington did. He could fight aggressively or defensively. Like Wellington, he sometimes had to command unwilling or unreliable allies, but his victories (costly as they were) saved the world. Loved as he was by his men, Wellington cannot claim that status.
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30 Jul 07, 00:34
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Real Name: Steven Gerrard
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Fields of Anfield Road
Posts: 15,930
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Adolphus for me as well.
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30 Jul 07, 01:44
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Real Name: Louis
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Classified
Posts: 514
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Adolphus sounds like my kinda general 
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30 Jul 07, 02:25
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Real Name: Garry
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Victoria
Posts: 13,337
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Adolphus 
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Thomas More.
"... but all war is a mistake, all war."
General Peter Cosgrove
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30 Jul 07, 04:37
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dublin Ireland
Posts: 1,252
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Yeah I'll go with Adolphus!!!
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30 Jul 07, 07:08
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ACG Forums - Field Marshal
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Real Name: Mickey
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 6,217
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Staying with Wellington on this one.
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30 Jul 07, 07:45
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Real Name: Brian King
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Cheyenne Mountain
Posts: 8,412
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I'm sticking with Wellington for helping put Napster out of business!
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Our forefathers died to give us freedom, not free stuff.
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30 Jul 07, 08:50
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Real Name: Heather Lockhart
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Superior, CO
Posts: 7,377
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Adolphus sounds like he contributed more!
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30 Jul 07, 08:54
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Surrey
Posts: 2,316
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Wellington obviously - he beat Napolen.
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30 Jul 07, 09:42
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Real Name: Bob Evans
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salem, OH
Posts: 9,670
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Adolphus for me. It's just to p.o. our English members.  Actually I flipped a coin on this one, that's how close it was for me. I could not decide. 
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30 Jul 07, 11:56
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere between Miami and Atlanta
Posts: 413
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I favor Adolphus
1. His military reforms allowed the Swedish kings to reign supreme along the entire Baltic coast for nearly 70 years. This coming from a nation not gifted with many natural resources or farmland.
2. His contributions to military science.
a. Made cavalry into a hammer after meeting the Polish husaria, a shift that allowed his cavalry to repeatedly smash the Catholic cavalry.
b. Artillery pieces that support infantry formations, bringing more firepower to his infantry.
c. New infantry formations, which provided his soldiers with the tactical flexibility required to defeat the tercios
d. Standardized the powder and shot for the infantry, providing them with an easier means of re-loading and supply.
Plus, Wellington defeated Frederick. I must have revenge.
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Introduction to 'Hammer's Slammers'
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30 Jul 07, 13:10
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 5,534
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Adoplhus!
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30 Jul 07, 15:52
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Real Name: Louis
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Classified
Posts: 514
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Vote Adolphus and get a complementary free beer and large pizza of your choice
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"Folks need to be realists and realize that peace is a nice idea, but ultimately unattainable on a worldwide level."
- 6thInf Grandson
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30 Jul 07, 16:42
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The temperate climate zone
Posts: 2,117
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Wellington eh?
Nah, I still will go with the home team.
If good old Gustav secures a podium finnish, will I have the honour to place some kind of Armchairgeneral ribbon on one of his monuments? 
The man himself pointing out where he wanted the town Gothenburg to be placed.
Or perhaps buy a round of Gustav Adolf pastries to the kind forum administrators?
Served every year since 1909 to commemorate his death
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