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Do death videos bother you?

Since signing up for broadband last year, I'm able to access net videos on all sorts of subjects including death videos,the sort of stuff TV channels aren't allowed to broadcast, and for the first time in my life I'm able to see people being killed in wars,road accidents,airshow crashes, murders and so on.
No, I'm not some kind of ghoul who relishes the stuff, it's just that I feel it's my duty to myself to see what goes on in the real world, rather than comfort-blanket myself away from it.
The only effect such vids have had on me is to make me love my fellow man even more because I can't help feeling sorry for the poor slobs in the vids who cop it..
The vids don't traumatise me or bother me in any way because I know that's just the way the world is and I can hack it..
"All creation groans in pain from the beginning til now" (Romans 8:26)
Do other people watch these vids too?
What effect (if any) do they have on you?
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I can tell you that I have on one occasion tracked down one of the Pearl beheading videos, but ultimately did not watch it. I was on the site and had it streaming to my media player and canceled the download. For me I think that I have a fair idea of the gravity of the news I am whatching or reading and I find it hard to find a real reason to watch. I had this uneasy feeling as the file was streaming that I was somehow curious about his final moments and that I was afraid I was just fulfilling some sort of morbid curiosity. So, I deferred.

I am not saying that others should not or that they are in someway wrong for watching. I just don't think that in general it is something for me.

I have no military experience but have seen 3 people killed or in the process of dying in automobile accidents and constuction mishaps. I found that in 2 of the 3 situations I was able to actively assist in the situation and in the third situation, I was calming the gal I was with as she was hysterical, so in a way I did my part in keeping her from making the situation worse for all involved.
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Thread title man, you gotta spend more time thinking them up eh.

I thought you were going to start talking about snuff movies (I don't like them by the way).

As for "news" events and real world depictions of death from disasters. No, I don't wish to actually watch people dying. I don't want to watch a terrorist hack off a man's head, or watch Saddam dangle to death on film. I don't want to watch a person commit suicide, or die in a fire or car crash.

I watch history yes, but I am not into watching combat death either. I am aware that SPR was a gruesome opening 30 minutes, but, it was also only a movie and I know this.

Real death, not interested.
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I've seen quite a few of these 'death videos', some are the Iraq beheadings, others various accidents and punishments. Can't say I've ever felt guilty or wrong about seeing them. It has, though, offered me a new perspective on death, suffering and, in some of the cases, old-fashioned human depravity.
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I've seen agony, terror, & death in too many faces, forms, & circumstances throughout my life. I have no inclination to seek out recorded instances of it unless it might help others to minimize or avoid the cause or means of it.

For those that have never seen or experienced any of it, regards others... I pray they never do.
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The horror of death is perception based...but that presumes one has the intellectual acumen to understand the context of the death; and appreciate the fact that it's been going on a long time in all it's forms and remains the curse of the living.

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Years ago I watched a Russian GI get his head sawed off by some Afghans with a dull knife.
Anybody who wants to watch that stuff has something really wrong with them.
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Way back I watched a couple of the "Faces of Death" video's and for the most part the "live" scenes were staged. I have no intrest in watching death and agony in real life or staged (not that I won't watch a good horror or war flick).
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They don't bother me when it's the bad guys getting slaughtered. Otherwise, I tend to avoid the overly grotesque... although I did watch a few of the beheading vids, and I think every adult in the US should have to watch one.
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I agree that everyone should have to watch one of the beheading videos.

Personally I get no satisfaction from watching people die in video. There is something admittedly satisfying about watching a cracked up Islamic turn into pink mist or spill his guts after you've shot him, but that is related to battle and not being an 'armchair warrior' like most of the allies of the Islamics here are. The fact is that you can watch those videos all day and think you are tough but they haven't even seen what we are capable of.
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Guess it depends on the context.

The only ones I've seen that bothered me was when I watched one of those retarded (and fake) 'faces of death' videos from the 80's. I cant help but wonder if it wasnt porn for necrophilacs.
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We can also understand a bit better where people are coming from.
For example I saw one vid where Chechyens were mopping up childrens body parts after a Russian attack (accidental or otherwise) on one of their school buses..
So now I can well understand why they sought revenge by blowing up Russian kids in the Beslan school massacre..
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I can tell you that I have on one occasion tracked down one of the Pearl beheading videos, but ultimately did not watch it. I was on the site and had it streaming to my media player and canceled the download. For me I think that I have a fair idea of the gravity of the news I am whatching or reading and I find it hard to find a real reason to watch. I had this uneasy feeling as the file was streaming that I was somehow curious about his final moments and that I was afraid I was just fulfilling some sort of morbid curiosity. So, I deferred.

I am not saying that others should not or that they are in someway wrong for watching. I just don't think that in general it is something for me.

I have no military experience but have seen 3 people killed or in the process of dying in automobile accidents and constuction mishaps. I found that in 2 of the 3 situations I was able to actively assist in the situation and in the third situation, I was calming the gal I was with as she was hysterical, so in a way I did my part in keeping her from making the situation worse for all involved.
You don't need the internet now they send you the film threw your Mobile with Blue tooth and that I saw one where a guy with a six inche blade saw a guys head off and held it up by the hair very groosem and a guy told me has on where they cu off above his voice box and they could hear him squeeling like a pig when they cut his head off really makes you hate this Bustards that do this sh*t
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When I finally realized that the dogfight videos in WW2 news reels were the end of a human life a lot of times, I stopped worrying about it. Now I can see the beheading videos without nightmares or concerns.
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