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boonie i hope your going to post this juicy stuff on the TO&Es group mate ...
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boonie i hope your going to post this juicy stuff on the TO&Es group mate ...
I've compiled dozens of Vietnam TOEs for TOAW, if I find the time I'll regroup them in a word file and post them.
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Just started reading Keith Nolan's Into Cambodia last nite and he gives the TOEs for an 11th ACR squadron: 9 Sheridans and 25 ACAVs per cav troop, which came as a surprise for me, I didn't know the cav troops had armors, which gives each squadrons 27 Sheridans plus a company of M48A3s (I'm guessing 17 of them, just like a company in a tank battalion at the time) for a total of 44 tanks, which is much more than an armored cavalry squadrons . Now the question is: did the sheridans replace some M48A3s? if yes it would means a pre-1969 squadron would have had 44 pattons, which is nearly as much as a divisional tank battalion (and would make them the most powerfull ground units in Vietnam)

PS: he doesn't mentions any M106 though, just some M125s and M132s in the HHC.
Tank Companies had 17 tanks each. M48A2s, replaced by A3 models later in war. Sheridans were always maintained within the Troops.

Companies D (Dawg), H (Hotel), and M (Mike) Company were proud titles. Always more "fights" between tankers and the rest of the Regiment.
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I am reading an old book of mine called "Mounted Combat in Vietnam" by General Donn A. Starry. It says that when first deployed to Viet Nam the 11 ACR had M-113s issued in the Arm Cav Squadrons, instead of tanks. My "guess" is the Sheridans were added later.

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I am reading an old book of mine called "Mounted Combat in Vietnam" by General Donn A. Starry. It says that when first deployed to Viet Nam the 11 ACR had M-113s issued in the Arm Cav Squadrons, instead of tanks. My "guess" is the Sheridans were added later.

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Think I remember this book. It's yellow with the country of Vietnam and a M-48 on it. If so, very good book.
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Tank Companies had 17 tanks each. M48A2s, replaced by A3 models later in war. Sheridans were always maintained within the Troops.

Companies D (Dawg), H (Hotel), and M (Mike) Company were proud titles. Always more "fights" between tankers and the rest of the Regiment.
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Freightshaker,

Here is what the breakdown of the "old" ACR Troops were in 'Nam...

Scout section 4x M113 ACAVs.... 4 or 5 man crew per vehicle. PL normally road with this section

Tank section 3x M551 Sheridans. PSG ALWAYS rode with this section.

Infantry Section 1x M113. 9 Grunts "stuffed" in/on top of this aluminum "can".

Indirect Fires section 1x M106(Nomenclature not too sure). 81mm for indirect and Illum support for the Platoon.

Took me a while to locate this info. Sure was nice going back into my Armor magazines from the 1970s.
I forgot to add, The above quoted info is just for ONE platoon. There were three manuever platoons to a Troop and a HQ platoon that had a M578 Cherry picker and two M113s for Maintenance/ Casualty Evacs.
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I am reading an old book of mine called "Mounted Combat in Vietnam" by General Donn A. Starry. It says that when first deployed to Viet Nam the 11 ACR had M-113s issued in the Arm Cav Squadrons, instead of tanks. My "guess" is the Sheridans were added later.

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Thanks for the heads up, it's online at CMH, forgot to check it:
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vie...nted/index.htm


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I forgot to add, The above quoted info is just for ONE platoon. There were three manuever platoons to a Troop and a HQ platoon that had a M578 Cherry picker and two M113s for Maintenance/ Casualty Evacs.
Ok, gonna try to synthesize all the infos found and I(ll post the result here.
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Here's a tentative OB/TOE for the 11th ACR in Nam:

-Regimental HQ and HQ Troop w/
2 light observation and 8 utility helicopters

-Air Cavalry Troop w/
8 UH-1B, 9 OH-6A, 5 UH-1D (1965-67)
9 AH-1G, 9 OH-6A, 2 UH-1B, 6 UH-1D (1968+)

-1st Squadron:

-HQ & HQ Troop w/
281 personnel, 5 M113 APCs (? includes M557, M125 81mm mortar, M-132 Flame), 3 AVLBs, 2 light observation and 2 utility helicopters

-3 Armored Cavalry Troops (A-C) w/each
170 personnel, 9 M48 tanks, 22 M113/M114 APCs, 3 M106 APC with 4.2" mortars (pre-Vietnam)
170 personnel, 31 M113 ACAVs, 3 M106 APC with 4.2" mortars (Vietnam 1965-68)
170 personnel, 9 M551 Sheridans, 25 M113 ACAVs, 3 M106 APC with 4.2" mortars (Jan 1969+)

-1 Tank Company (D) w/
102 personnel, 17 M48A3 tanks, 3 M113 APCs

-1 Artillery Battery w/
143 personnel, 6 M109 155mm SP howitzers

-2d Squadron (E-H): same as 1st Sqn

-3d Squadron (I-M): same as 1st Sqn

-Attached Units:

919th Engineer Company
37th Medical Company
Company B(-), 720th MP battalion
17th Public Information detachment
28th Military History Detachment
409th Army Security Agency Detachment
541st Military Intelligence Detachment
202d Military Intelligence Detachment

-HQ Locations:

Bien Hoa: Sept-Nov 66
Long Binh: Dec 66-Feb 67
Xuan Loc:Mar 67-Jan 69
Lai Khe: Feb 69
Long Giao: Mar-Sep 69
Bien Hoa: Oct 69-Jun 70
Di An: Jul 70-Mar 71

-Note:

In Jan 1969, 1st Sqn 11th Armored Cavalry began to receive M551 Sheridans, receiving three Sheridans for each two ACAVs in the troops. By 1970 the remainder of the regiment was re-equipped with Sheridans.

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HHT 2/11th ACR MSG Robert Louis Bolan

Iím Carol (Bolan) Phelps the niece of MSGT Robert Louis Bolan who served in Vietnam (his last tour 69-70) and KIA 24 July 1970. He was in the 2nd Squadron, 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment. I am looking for any information about my uncle and/or pictures. My dad Ray is Robert Louisís baby bother and Uncle Willie is the next to the youngest.

I found out that they were in LTC Richard "Dick" Coffmanís Command & Control (C&C) Ship (Helicopter). I know that Coffman and the gunner were both very badly wounded as well. They were returning from Di An Base Camp after their admin mission to the FSB, during the flight the aircraft received ground to air fire. Sergeant Major (Robert Louis) was laying on the floor of the helicopter and had his side arm in his hand. Sergeant Major was firing at the VCís as they were firing upon them. I know it was about 10:45am on 24 July 1970, WO Billy L Hunziker was flying, TLC Coffman (don't know names of the co-pilot, gunner or the other pax) and MSGT Robert Louis Bolan (which he was acting Sergeant Major). I know from talking with Hunziker the helicopter didn't crash but was in bad shape, Robert Louis was giving CPR and put on the medvac and died on way to the base hospital. Yes I have a lot of info but need more, for my family.

I am still trying to find out about the Helicopter's Tail numbers and the full incident report of that day (who all was in the Helicopter) and After Action Report, these are the missing pieces that I can't seem to find.


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Doesn't Stanton's order of battle have it?
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In addition to the three armored cav squadrons the 11th ACR had an air cav troop. It was the standard red, white, and blue teams: aero-weapons, aero-scouts, and aero-rifles. The it seems the ARP was redesignated LRRP for a short time and then later redesignated ARP again.

Interesting 11ACR ARP videos:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleROZeyDho
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Didn't Fred Franks serve with the 11th ACR?
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Didn't Fred Franks serve with the 11th ACR?
According to wiki, he served in the 11th ACR three times. In Germany before Vietnam, in Vietnam (where he was wounded and lost his foot), and finally as the regimental commander, again in Germany.
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