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The "Peace" sign !!!!

Thanks for the positive reactions everybody...
I will try to keep the Strange History facts going, if I run out of facts though, I will have to call in the help of you all if you guys don't mind...

Here's my next fact, but I think it will be an easy one...for it is fairly well known...

The well known "Peace" sign (you know, showing your pointfinger and middle finger !) is fairly well incorporated into our daily lives... We have all used it many times in the past, I'm sure ! Fact is however that it is a fairly old sign, probably about 600 years old ! Of course it wasn't used for the same reason then as it is used now, in the contrary even... does anyone know where it originally comes from?



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is it possibly to do with agincourt, when the english archers were threatened with their 2 bow pulling fingers being lopped off by the french if captured, so the english archers stuck their two fingers in the air to the french, in defiance.
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is it possibly to do with agincourt, when the english archers were threatened with their 2 bow pulling fingers being lopped off by the french if captured, so the english archers stuck their two fingers in the air to the french.
Well Mike, that was fast...
Good !
I knew it would be an easy one !!!!



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A-ha... my net surfing habits, er, reference information access skills, have located a suitably martial origin: apparently the French used to cut off the two fingers of captured Welsh archers in the era of the 100 Years' War. Hence, to stick one's two fingers up was a sign of defiance on the part of Welsh archers.
http://www.answers.com/topic/v-sign

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Christmas tree

Well, here's another fact then...

I know it is certainly not the time of year, but at Christmas we all hang up balls in the trees ! It is an ancient tradition that goes back about 2000 years ago or more !!! In fact it were the ol' Celts that started the tradition...but can anyone guess why they did started this?



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PS: No, the Ol' Celts didn't have Christmas trees...nor did they celebrate Christmas in those days !!!!
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Well, here's another fact then...

I know it is certainly not the time of year, but at Christmas we all hang up balls in the trees ! It is an ancient tradition that goes back about 2000 years ago or more !!! In fact it were the ol' Celts that started the tradition...but can anyone guess why they did started this?



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Clarify please. Are you asking why the Celts use Decorated trees or why we still use decorated trees?

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Hmmm... maybe a way to find a path through the forest, which would be harder to navigate in winter?
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all i can suggest was it an offering to the pagan gods?
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A-ha... my net surfing habits, er, reference information access skills, have located a suitably martial origin: apparently the French used to cut off the two fingers of captured Welsh archers in the era of the 100 Years' War. Hence, to stick one's two fingers up was a sign of defiance on the part of Welsh archers.
http://www.answers.com/topic/v-sign

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I rather doubt this explanation. Snopes does a pretty good job of debunking it.
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A-ha... my net surfing habits, er, reference information access skills, have located a suitably martial origin: apparently the French used to cut off the two fingers of captured Welsh archers in the era of the 100 Years' War. Hence, to stick one's two fingers up was a sign of defiance on the part of Welsh archers.
http://www.answers.com/topic/v-sign

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Isnt that debunked as a popular myth, based on that there are alot of inconsistencies and no real historic backing? AFAIK threre are some french records of English troops waving their fingers but that is long before Agincourt, and even the Romans had something to do with the meaning of the fingers.

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According to a popular myth the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt during the Hundred Years' War. The story claims that the French cut off two fingers on the right hand of captured archers and that the gesture was a sign of defiance by those who were not mutilated. (This false etymology has also given rise to an alternative name for the gesture, which can also be known as flicking an "Archers Salute" or just "Archers" as in "He just flicked me an Archers!".) The website Snopes [1], however, shows that medieval warriors had no interest in capturing common archers that could not be held for ransom, preferring instead to simply kill such prisoners. Furthermore, mutilating a prisoner to stop them from using a bow wouldn't make sense, since killing them would stop them from ever serving the enemy again. There is also the fact that contemporary accounts of the battle make no references to the French mutilating their prisoners by cutting off fingers from their hands.[2] (The first definitive known reference to the V sign is in the works of François Rabelais, a French satirist of the 1500s. [3])

The same story has circulated in the US as a supposed explanation for the use of the middle finger as an obscenity, with the added flourish of saying the slang term for the sign, "flipping/giving the bird," has something to do with feathers on arrows. This is untrue, as the middle-finger sign dates at least to ancient Rome and symbolizes a penis[4]; "giving the bird" dates to 1800s British theatrical slang, meaning to be driven off stage by goose-like hisses, and was apparently connected to the middle-finger sign by US military pilots in the 1960s. [5]

The belief that the V sign originated among archers might have its origin in the work of the historian Jean Froissart (c. 1337-c. 1404), who died before the Battle of Agincourt took place. In his "Chronicles," he recounts a story of the English waving their fingers at the French during a siege of a castle, however he makes no reference to which fingers were used meaning that this is not evidence of the origin of the V sign.
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Well, here's another fact then...

I know it is certainly not the time of year, but at Christmas we all hang up balls in the trees ! It is an ancient tradition that goes back about 2000 years ago or more !!! In fact it were the ol' Celts that started the tradition...but can anyone guess why they did started this?



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PS: No, the Ol' Celts didn't have Christmas trees...nor did they celebrate Christmas in those days !!!!
Of course they celebrated Christmas, but it was called Yule (at least by the Germans and Scandinavians), which is the original name of the holiday before it was taken over by christian beliefes. AFAIK there are nothing that supports that Jesus was born on "Christmas", that time of year where however the time for one of the greates feasts, so I guess the timing suited the church well. Heck, most "Christmas" traditions are left overs from the pagan times, just think about it.

The tree, Evergreen was considered magic because it never lost its leaves so it had a central place around that time of year, because it was then the darkness and evil was at its peak, and every mean of protection where important.

I belive the christmas tree got its modern shape in Germany around 1500 if I am not mistaken.

I have no clue about balls and celts though...
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AFAIK there are nothing that supports that Jesus was born on "Christmas", that time of year where however the time for one of the greates feasts, so I guess the timing suited the church well.
My understanding is that December 25 is not meant to represent the actual date of his birth; rather, it was the date chosen by the early church to commemorate the birth, since the actual date itself is unknown (and in all probability, un-knowable).
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My understanding is that December 25 is not meant to represent the actual date of his birth; rather, it was the date chosen by the early church to commemorate the birth, since the actual date itself is unknown (and in all probability, un-knowable).
I dont think many people know that. Isnt it presented a way that make i look like a set date? Besides, it was a hardly coincidence that this commemoration day was placed as it is.

The same is probably true for easter as well. There where alot of traditions going on around the spring equinox long before christianity made its entry. I mean, even the name is "Easter" is hypothetized to come from an ancient pagan goddess of the spring named Eostre.

Great holidays non the less!
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I will try to clarify Half Pint...

The question is: Where does the practice of hanging balls in the Christmas tree come from?



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