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28 Jan 06, 17:36
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What are your favorite moments in the Medieval Era
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28 Jan 06, 20:36
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My favourite military event is the Turkish victory in Malazgirt against Byzantine Army on August 26, 1071.
Although the Turks were outnumbered by the army of Roman Diogenes, the brilliant command of Alparslan brought Turks the victory.
Turks entered and settled in Anatolia after this victory. We owe our today homeland Anatolia to this victory.
The tactics executed by Alparslan in this war are still shown in lessons of Turkish Military Academy.
Roman Diogenes were captured by Turks. Alparslan showed him hospitality as he had been his guest. Then he released him and send some guards to protect him on his way to Constantinopole. He arrived in the capital but imprisoned by his own people. He died after being heavily tortured.
Regards
Fatih
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28 Jan 06, 23:36
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Real Name: Tim Zales
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Originally Posted by fatih
My favourite military event is the Turkish victory in Malazgirt against Byzantine Army on August 26, 1071.
Although the Turks were outnumbered by the army of Roman Diogenes, the brilliant command of Alparslan brought Turks the victory.
Turks entered and settled in Anatolia after this victory. We owe our today homeland Anatolia to this victory.
The tactics executed by Alparslan in this war are still shown in lessons of Turkish Military Academy.
Roman Diogenes were captured by Turks. Alparslan showed him hospitality as he had been his guest. Then he released him and send some guards to protect him on his way to Constantinopole. He arrived in the capital but imprisoned by his own people. He died after being heavily tortured.
Regards
Fatih
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True, it was one of the most important battles in history. One that changed the balance of power in the region in a big way. I think it is similar to Teutoburger Wald for the Romans. The defeat that could not be overcome. It was the beginning of the Byzantines slow slide to defeat.
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28 Jan 06, 23:40
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My personal favorite period is the Crusades. An event that changed both Western Europe and the Middle East. It doesn't mater how you look at the Crusades politically, they have all the big personalities and events that make history interesting.
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29 Jan 06, 01:00
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I've always found that the Crusades were, and still are full of much mystery & intrigue. Much yet unanswered or discovered.
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30 Jan 06, 04:08
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My favorites:
451 AD - Chalons, Aetius defeats the Huns at the head of Roman-Visigoth coalition
895 AD - The Hungarians take Hungary
1241 AD - Batu Khan defeats the Hungarians on the Sajo River
1453 AD - Fall of Constantinople
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30 Jan 06, 04:09
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I've always found that the Crusades were, and still are full of much mystery & intrigue. Much yet unanswered or discovered.
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So many people see them as an offensive against the Muslims, but they were in fact a counter-offensive following the fall of Spain and decades (centuries) of attacks on Christian sites in the middle east.
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30 Jan 06, 06:57
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I've know several teachers/professors that have argued the point with me in that the Crusades were all about revenge - as though everything before them was the natural state of things. Me being me... the argument could never end with their view as completely prevailing. Othen the others in the argument would begin in unison of that view, but before the discussions died out, some would have found much of their arguments to be on sandy soil in regard.
Sometimes I don't know when to keep me mouth shut they'd say afterwards.
Hmmm... probably right about that...
A fine mornin to ya, Jeff! (Erm... more like evenin, eh)

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30 Jan 06, 07:03
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Originally Posted by Admiral
I've know several teachers/professors that have argued the point with me in that the Crusades were all about revenge - as though everything before them was the natural state of things. Me being me... the argument could never end with their view as completely prevailing. Othen the others in the argument would begin in unison of that view, but before the discussions died out, some would have found much of their arguments to be on sandy soil in regard.
Sometimes I don't know when to keep me mouth shut they'd say afterwards.
Hmmm... probably right about that...
A fine mornin to ya, Jeff! (Erm... more like evenin, eh)

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Darned anti-Western professors!
Actually, it's about 1300 here.
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30 Jan 06, 09:17
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Agincourt. I like the stand of an outnumbered army using the firepower of the longbow to defeat an armored cavalry force. It seems that some of the macro shifts in military history come when the infantry learns to stand against mobile forces.
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03 Feb 06, 02:26
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Robert Bruce at Bannockburn, defeating an English knight in man to man combat.
The Black Prince, Edward at Poitiers. A great and total victory, capturing the French King John and his son, and many leading French nobles, after routing a vastly superior Frnech army. If the Black Prince does not die prematurely to illness, his weak son Richard II does not come to the throne at the age of 10 and John of Gaunt's (The Black Prince's younger brother) son, Henry Bolingbrook, does not depose the young King, begining the Lancaster dynasty, and then maybe no War of the Roses and no York dynasty, no Victoria.
The entire story of Joan of Arc. Among the most amazing stories in recorded history.
The battle of Hattin. How did those Crusaders blind themselves into marching into this disaster?
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13 Feb 06, 09:05
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I like the battle in Teutoburg Forest between the Romans and Germanians.
Takes place in the 9th year, and the Germanic people stopped Varus and his men.
Rome got it handed to them in this battle. They were disorganized, and I think, not a little arrogant.
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19 Feb 06, 15:27
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I like the battle in Teutoburg Forest between the Romans and Germanians.
Takes place in the 9th year, and the Germanic people stopped Varus and his men.
Rome got it handed to them in this battle. They were disorganized, and I think, not a little arrogant.
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Good one, though I don't think that is technically considered Medieval, I think that was the Classical period. Augustus was Caesar at the time, iirc.
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06 Apr 06, 05:14
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Good one, though I don't think that is technically considered Medieval, I think that was the Classical period. Augustus was Caesar at the time, iirc.
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Right.
Any other favorite moments?
How 'bout Henry VIII? The Fall of Constantinople? The Battle on the Ice? Invasions of England in 1066? Sterling Bridge? Discovery of Vinland or Greenland by the Vikings?
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06 Apr 06, 06:25
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The battle of Grunwald/Tannenberg 1410. between the Teutonic Knights Order/western volunteer Knights-guests and forcess of Kingdom of Poland and Grand Principality of Lithuania. this battle braked the back of the Order and led to foundation Of Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów the Confederacy and later Federal (republic) state (1569) of Poland, Lithuania,Latwia,Belarus and Ukraine, which ruled the Eastern Europe from XV to XVII century, and was couter balance for Germany and Russia. 
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