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Sailing around South America from Spain to meet fate in uncharted waters. Or fishing, husking coconuts, and eating in the Pacific wondering what those odd shaped boats are. Or minor royalty in Southern Ireland. Or fishing and herding in Sweden.
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I recently learned, that apparently the groom of Baron von Haxthausen, an ancestor of mine shot the Swedish King at the battle of Leuthen.
Leuthen? Do you perhaps mean Lützen? He was one of these gentlemen?

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My grandfather (like about 42,000 other people with ancestors in Chester Co. PA) was a descendant of Captain John Starr, who accompanied Oliver Cromwell on his campaign in Ireland from 1649-1650.
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The people of Cornwall have been tin miners since before the Roman invasion so I would think there'd be more than a chance that some of my ancestors would have been engaged in that line of work.
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I have recently been doing some genealogical research on my Scottish ancestors from long ago and I ran across a lovely ancestress, the Lady Anna MacKenzie, whose biography was printed as A memoir of Lady Anna Mackenzie: countess of Balcarres and afterwards of Argyll by Alexander Lindsay in 1868.

I was absolutely thrilled when I began to go through the pages and found her portrait engraved inside.



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Anne Mackenzie (c.1617-1707), countess of Balcarres and countess of Argyll, was daughter of the first earl of Seaforth. In 1640 she married her cousin Alexander Lindsay, Lord Lindsay of Balcarres, who was later created first earl of Balcarres for his support of Charles II. However his royal support cost them financially with the estates being sequestered. When Lindsay was summoned to France to counsel Charles in exile, Anna went too, living at court of the exiled queen mother Henrietta Mary. Anna was then made governess to the future William III by his mother Princess Mary of Orange in the Hague. After Alexander died in 1659, she returned to Balcarres to try to assure the future for her son Charles, now earl of Lindsay, spending 2 years in London on his behalf, then when he died at the age of 11, she supported her next son Colin as earl. She remarried in 1670 to Archibald Campbell, ninth earl of Argyll, a friend from days spent in the Highlands in 1653. He had had his titles and estates restored and now worked to increase his own power under the guise of repressing first Catholic rebels and then covenanters. James, duke of York, became concerned about his aggrandising powers and indirectly brought about his downfall by the introduction of the Test Act. Argyll was found guilty of treason in 1681 for refusing to take the new oath of loyalty, and while he managed to escape execution by fleeing to Holland with the help of Anna’s daughter Sophia, his estates were forfeited and Anne found herself living in penury again. She carried on managing Balcarres in his absence, but was imprisoned in Edinburgh Castle as soon as Argyll returned to Scotland with men to aid Monmouth’s rebellion in 1685. It was quickly quelled and he was executed the same year. Anne carried on supporting both her families, helping her exiled son in law Sir Duncan Campbell, and held things together for the Campbells until the revolution of 1688. She returned to Balcarres to deal with huge debts left by her son Colin who had been imprisoned for support of James VII, and remained there until her death in 1707.
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In the biography of Anna Mackenzie it is told that she and her first husband slept out on the mountains in the highlands while on the run and it was that hardship that led to his fatal disease of apparent tuberculosis (consumption). She was his nurse while he was dying and he would only permit her to touch him.

Anna Mackenzie seems like such a heroine to me and is a very interesting ancestor. She was the great-grandmother of my immigrant ancestor Gilbert Campbell who settled in the Valley of Virginia in the 1740s.
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My ancestors during the pike and shot joined the rebellion of Karpos against the Turks.This was at the time when the Turks were at the gates of Vienna.The leader of the rebellion was crowned king Karpos by the Austrian emperor.Later when the Austrians had to retreat, the rebellion was crushed.
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Karposh' rebellion was a Bulgarian uprising against Ottoman rule. What was your ancestors' ethnicity?
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My ancestors (2 families from Southwestern Serbia/Northern Montenegro,one family from Western Serbia,and no notice of my grandmother family in Southeastern Serbia) fought against Ottomans as well,however since most of the family history was passed by spoken words,there are little notice of exact years and historical facts.

And yes,since Ottomans were around,they lost any kind of nobility titles.
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Macedonian, from Kumanovo,later a blood from the Cherkezi tribe which was settled there by the Turks, was infused,my grandmother is from Pirot.
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Both my father's and mother's side were living in Caucasus Mountains. They were Christian farmers.The Mongols had probably just left their land.

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The last tribe that was settled into Macedonia were the Cherkezi,they populated in Kumanovo to guard the borders of the Ottoman Empire. They were converted to Christianity.
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What is notable about the rebellion is that the leader was crowned as King Karposh by the Austrian Emperor,who were able to turn the Turks away from the gates of Vienna.
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The Armstrongs were border reivers between England and Scotland. The often raided with the Elliots. They invented the insurance racket centuries before Al Capone. Mail was the rent one paid on their property. Blackmail was what you paid the Armstrong's not to burn down your house and steal your cattle. The Armstrongs, along with other great border families, were some of the best light cavalry in western Europe, and they hired out to different armies.
My ancestral lineage also includes Border Reivers. As you intimate, they tended to be the bully boys and villains on both sides of the English-Scottish border, at the time a bit of a 'Wild West' sort of area. The Reivers often hired themselves out as mercenaries, and when they weren't killing and plundering others would frequently indulge in inter-family feuds and vendettas. My own family ended up doing quite well, with land and a couple of castles [now ruins]. The family history scroll starts with - 'This notorious border family ... '. Most of our wealth and land ended up taken away when 'we' backed the losing side in a couple of civil fracas - including the Monmouth Rebellion - in which an ancestor was a side-kick of the Duke of Monmouth, and ended up getting topped as a traitor après the Battle of Sedgemoor, a victim of the 'Bloody Assize'.

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The Clan Cameron was busy fighting. It didn't matter with who - the important bit was the fight. We won a lot of them too.

The Irish side is a bit more obscure but some of my cousins had a grand old gang war in Limerick recently (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keane-Collopy) which suggests that they might have enjoyed the occasional dust up through the ages.

There is a touch of Viking blood as well, and only God knows what they did to pass the time.
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