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11 May 09, 05:26
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Originally Posted by skoblin
My understanding is that the extra bolted-on armour occurred during month of July 1941 only. It was suspended when they realized the extra weight caused too much stress for the powertrain and the suspension.
I will set up a thread tomorrow in Achtung! Panzer showing a picture of every KV-1 model.
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May I tactfully suggest, that since the Achtung Panzer forum is for German armour, such a thread should be placed in the RKKA forum. 
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11 May 09, 05:31
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A.B., I'm inclined to think this is a 1940 model. The 1941 model had a much reduced turret rear. Plus the sharp angles on the front of the mantlet are more in accordance with the F-32 gun.
So...I would say KV-1 (1940) F-32 from the Kirov Factory in Leningrad.
EDIT: I will try to post some photos tomorrow of the various types and subtypes - but I am fairly certain about it being the 1940 model.
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Yes, you are right, it is a 1940 model. However, it would seem that relatively few (perhaps no more than about 150, together with about 100 KV-2) were actually manufactured in that year.
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11 May 09, 05:38
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Thanks panther, and skoblin.... I'm trying to work on an idea for a diorama, and this picture is going to be my main reference.
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11 May 09, 05:42
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Thanks panther, and skoblin.... I'm trying to work on an idea for a diorama, and this picture is going to be my main reference.
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Cheers, mate. The subject tank would be fine for a 'Barbarossa' diorama, if that's what you are contemplating.
A good number of the tanks manufactured in the early months of 1941 would also have been basically the same as the 1940 model. The extra bolt-on armour was added almost as a panic measure in response to the idea that the Germans had much more potent anti-tank weapons than they really possessed, but it did overload the already strained transmission/final drive, which failed with alarming frequency especially on these earlier models. 
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11 May 09, 19:38
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oh! Here's one to feed the Panther!
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11 May 09, 20:22
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What is it, a Volkswagon?
"No Man!...It's a...It's a...I've seen one of dees before, Man! It's a Mitsubishi!"
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Reason: Add Short Circuit dialogue
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12 May 09, 02:20
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Precisely. You wanna give me indigestion, Cicero? I'm on a tank diet and that looks suspiciously like an armoured car, to my eye. Isn't that right, M8? (M8 = mate, geddit???     )
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12 May 09, 06:52
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Just an easy refresher...
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12 May 09, 08:33
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IS 4 maybe?It's Russian anyway,there is Guards star and that behind is famous Kubinka Museum...
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12 May 09, 16:44
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IS 4 maybe?It's Russian anyway,there is Guards star and that behind is famous Kubinka Museum...
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Correct.
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14 May 09, 03:50
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Oh that's close up!
A bit too close for me to be sure, but if I were forced to guess I would say T-54/55. Looks to be in mint condition, too.
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14 May 09, 08:35
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T-62? Looks like the MG barrel is bended...
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Apologies for my brief absence - I was away for the weekend. And this coming weekend I'll be away again 
So trying to catch up...
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hmm...While the gun might still be the same L/30.5 I would be remiss if I failed to tell you about the noticeable difference in the gun mantle (i think mantle is the word) of the T-34(40) and the T-34(41). The gun mount on the T-34(40) appears upside down when compared to other T-34 Models. Here is the pic...
m1940
and here is the M1941
the only reason I point this out is that the words "model 1940/41 with F-34 gun" give me a good exuse to post pics of T-34's. |
I think you're right. Model 1941 looks more likely.
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