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08 May 09, 17:37
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Ok,how about Israeli Mag'ach 7?
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08 May 09, 18:19
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I suspect it's a Brazilian EE-T1 Osório.
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08 May 09, 18:49
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Originally Posted by AEP
Wow, done and done! That's all of them in one go
I wonder whether the T34/76 is a model 1940/41 with F-34 gun? Hard to tell.
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hmm...While the gun might still be the same L/30.5 I would be remiss if I failed to tell you about the noticeable difference in the gun mantle (i think mantle is the word) of the T-34(40) and the T-34(41). The gun mount on the T-34(40) appears upside down when compared to other T-34 Models. Here is the pic...
m1940

and here is the M1941

the only reason I point this out is that the words "model 1940/41 with F-34 gun" give me a good exuse to post pics of T-34's.
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08 May 09, 18:52
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I loves my tanks...
Oh yes, about the T-34...It must be a T-34(41)+. Cause the gun mantle is not right for an earlier T-34(40) model.
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08 May 09, 23:07
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Originally Posted by Cicero
hmm...While the gun might still be the same L/30.5 I would be remiss if I failed to tell you about the noticeable difference in the gun mantle (i think mantle is the word) of the T-34(40) and the T-34(41). The gun mount on the T-34(40) appears upside down when compared to other T-34 Models. Here is the pic...
m1940

and here is the M1941

the only reason I point this out is that the words "model 1940/41 with F-34 gun" give me a good exuse to post pics of T-34's.
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It's the armoured recuperator housing, integrated into the mantlet, but we know what you mean. 
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11 May 09, 00:53
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Name the Tank (we may well have done this one before):

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11 May 09, 01:17
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I think we did too. M-24 Chaffee, right?
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11 May 09, 01:20
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Listy, looks like a M24 Chaffee to me.
Anyway, apologies if I'm jumping the cue, but I'm needing some help with a pic! I've found a photo of a KV-1 and need help to ID it, I'm inclined to think it's the KV-1 (model 1941) "KV Small Turret " version. I've had to brighten the photo because it was originally very dark.

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11 May 09, 01:37
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Aye M-24 it is.
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"He fell out of a Gestapo car, over a bridge, and onto a railway line. Then was run over by the Berlin Express.
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11 May 09, 01:45
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A.B., I'm inclined to think this is a 1940 model. The 1941 model had a much reduced turret rear. Plus the sharp angles on the front of the mantlet are more in accordance with the F-32 gun.
So...I would say KV-1 (1940) F-32 from the Kirov Factory in Leningrad.
EDIT: I will try to post some photos tomorrow of the various types and subtypes - but I am fairly certain about it being the 1940 model.
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Originally Posted by Achtung Baby
Listy, looks like a M24 Chaffee to me.
Anyway, apologies if I'm jumping the cue, but I'm needing some help with a pic! I've found a photo of a KV-1 and need help to ID it, I'm inclined to think it's the KV-1 (model 1941) "KV Small Turret " version. I've had to brighten the photo because it was originally very dark.
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11 May 09, 01:52
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Originally Posted by skoblin
A.B., I'm inclined to think this is a 1940 model. The 1941 model had a much reduced turret rear. Plus the sharp angles on the front of the mantlet are more in accordance with the F-32 gun.
So...I would say KV-1 (1940) F-32 from the Kirov Factory in Leningrad.
EDIT: I will try to post some photos tomorrow of the various types and subtypes - but I am fairly certain about it being the 1940 model.
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That would be cool, I just figured that the 1940 model had the extra armour bolted on, thus my other guess because the photo shows there is none attached. Forgive my ignorance, Russian armour is still something I'm learning about.
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11 May 09, 02:03
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Ouch! Was this tank used for target practice in training?
Does anyone know?
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The site I found it claims that it was hit more than 30 times(none penetrated) and only an 88 was able to silence it... they had to set up the anti aircraft gun while a heap of German tanks distracted it, the first 88 was destroyed by the KV-1. I have no idea if this is the true story.......
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11 May 09, 02:12
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Originally Posted by Achtung Baby
That would be cool, I just figured that the 1940 model had the extra armour bolted on, thus my other guess because the photo shows there is none attached. Forgive my ignorance, Russian armour is still something I'm learning about.
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My understanding is that the extra bolted-on armour occurred during month of July 1941 only. It was suspended when they realized the extra weight caused too much stress for the powertrain and the suspension.
I will set up a thread tomorrow in Achtung! Panzer showing a picture of every KV-1 model.
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11 May 09, 02:14
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Originally Posted by Achtung Baby
The site I found it claims that it was hit more than 30 times(none penetrated) and only an 88 was able to silence it... they had to set up the anti aircraft gun while a heap of German tanks distracted it, the first 88 was destroyed by the KV-1. I have no idea if this is the true story.......
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I read a few similar stories in Paul Carrel's Hitler Moves East. I'll post a story or two tomorrow from one of the German divisional diaries.
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11 May 09, 02:24
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Thanks skoblin, I'd appreciate that.
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