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I'm looking for books specifically abt pre/para/post Roman Britain.
"King Arthur- The True Story", by Graham Phillips and Martin Keatman

Is it the *true* story? Probably not but it takes a good crack at trying to pin down the historical Arthur (490-520 AD, or there abouts). The authors examine Britain from the departure of the Roman legions in 410AD, and then detail how the British kingdoms arose, the "Saxon Advent" of 447AD and then the Britons attempts to halt the invasion.

The tricky part is, there are very few good sources and much of the information is, and can only be, somewhat speculative. Still a good read and far mor interesting that the later medieval fables of Camelot and round tables.
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"Caesar's Legion: The Epic Saga of Julius Ceasar's Elite Tenth Legion and the Armies of Rome" by Stephen Dando-Collins.

A study of Caesar's most famous legion.
An excellant read.Just finished it and another good book i read recently was Rubicon by Tom Holland.
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I'm looking for books specifically abt pre/para/post Roman Britain.
"Rubicon" (Holland) IMO synthesises Rome into what it really was/became. It's really a "Rome for Dummies" manual in a way though that doesn't do it true justice- truly brilliant and one of the best reads of our generation.

Doesn't speak particularly to Roman Britain- just Rome and how it conquered (the world). If you're off on vacation IMO best bang for your buck.
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Why hasn't The Art of War by Sun Tzu been mentioned yet? That is an Essential for anyone interested in Strategy i suggest the translation by James Clavell i'll quote a few lines just to give u some idea

"The Art of war then, is governed by five factors to be taken into account in ones deliberations when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field these are (1)The Moral Law (2)Heaven (night/day cold/heat times and seasons) (3)Earth(distances great and small open ground and narrow passes) (4)The Commander (5)Method and Disipline"

"To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme exellence; supreme exellence consists in breaking the enemies resistance without fighting"

Sorry this post was so long but this really is an Essentiall
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All the above reading material is highly recommended but I would like to sound a note of caution regarding ancient works such as Caesar, Tacitus, et al - we do have to keep in mind that excellent as these sources are, they were written by the victors of the period and we cannot preclude a little bias here and there. I don't know if anyone recommended Flavius Josephus but there is a classic example of what I am talking about - a turncoat whose writing catered to a Greco-Roman audience, many of whose statements are rather doubtful.
I recommend that in addition to the ancient reading material it would be a good idea to keep up with the latest breakthroughs in historical scholarship. Among the more modern authors, I was really impressed by Adrian Goldworthy and his writings on the Roman Army.
By the way this is my first posting in this forum and I would like to extend warm greetings to fellow forum members -from Toronto, eh?
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Would you happen to have an author on that one Mr Pounder?

Sounds like my kinda book.

Here is the whole title: 'BRITAIN AD a quest for Arthur, England and the Anglo-Saxons' by: Francis Pryor.

Pryor is an archaelogist, and therefore his conclusions differ somewhat form the normal historians, then again there is so much going on in the historical field conserning the so called dark ages, that arent so dark to us anymore, there was much action going on and the whole of Europe was in a state of flux... A good read even if one doesnt agree with everything the writer thinks happened...

I do have more good books to give a synopsis about here,
firstly: 'The peloponnnesian war' by- Donald Sagan,
a meticulous and modernly written account about that great combat that spanned generations between Sparta and Athens.
It's very detailed, almost five hundred pages, but good reading if you really want to immerce yourself into Greek phalanx war, and the mentality of the time...


Then, there is a book which has a title that can make you confused, but dont, because it's about the dark ages in western Europe, and what we really know about the era, when people still belived in magic, and the whole of Europe was in a state of flux, it's called: 'The real middle earth', by: Brian Bates.
The name comes from the fact that Tolkien took most of his model for the middle earth saga from actual Anglo-Saxon and Norse mythology! Not a lot of people know that... Very interesting...


Then a must, the book that inspired the people who made the film gladiator!
My copy is my fathers old one from the seventies, get one if you can! It's a seminal work of the Roman games and it's called:
'Those about to die' by: Daniel P. Mannix
Get it!

Hope these will inspire somebody.

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I do have more good books to give a synopsis about here,
firstly: 'The peloponnnesian war' by- Donald Sagan,
a meticulous and modernly written account about that great combat that spanned generations between Sparta and Athens.
It's very detailed, almost five hundred pages, but good reading if you really want to immerce yourself into Greek phalanx war, and the mentality of the time...
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The author is Donald KAGAN, not Sagan. He also wrote a four-volume series on the Peloponnesian War. I'm not sure whether the book referenced above is an abridgement of the four or is an independent work.
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Here are a few I recently read:

In The Name Of Rome by Adrian Goldsworthy - An excellent review of Roman generals and their battles from Marcellus to Belisarius

The Roman Imperial Army Of The First And Second Centuries by Graham Webster - Units and tactics, fort layout, sieges, Legion naming, Roman Navy and more.

For renegade_wolf:

The Last Frontier: The Roman Invasions of Scotland by Antony Kamm

Who Were The Celts? by Kevin Duffy - A good overview of Celts from 1000 B.C. to the present.

The best bar none I have read recently is a coffee table book called Battle: A Visual Journey Through 5,000 Years of Combat by R. G. Grant - Short, concise accounts of important trends in tactics and weaponry, beautifully illustrated.


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I would suggest reading In The Name Of Rome by Adrian Goldsworthy. A great book if you want to find out about all the great generals of Rome such as Scipio Africanus and Marcus Traianus!
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Plutarch's Lives

Lots of good stuff. Some of the best stuff on Pyrrhus of Epirus you will find.
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Annother crucial book is "The Collapse of the Bronze Age" by Drews, a military explanation of the event. Get the 2nd edition.
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Welcome all new users, hang arround and you will be here often, I guarantee!

I thought why not try asking about a book here, it should have somebody who knows about the kind of book I'm looking for.

Here goes, does anybody know of a good book on Spartacus and his battles and life, and if possible a review of Rome at the time and his impact on Roman society (there had to be some, if not large impact it was a huge thing after all).

Awaiting directions,
yours truly:
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My goodness...I get a bit busy and it looks like I've lost all my manners...

Thanks for the welcome. I enjoy this Board when I get a little free time (which isn't often...).
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