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Hi Guys, I'm looking for any information on Roman Legions. Any stuff would be good, but especially stuff on unit histories. Any books or websites I should check out?

thanks in advance,

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This website is a good starting place for Roman History (Military and otherwise). The links section off it is also excellent.

The period is a very long one though, so it may not be specialised enough for particular legions/cohorts etc.

http://www.roman-empire.net/index.html

Try looking down the "Army" and then "Legions" page links first.
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Hi Guys, I'm looking for any information on Roman Legions. Any stuff would be good, but especially stuff on unit histories. Any books or websites I should check out?
"Caesar's Legion: The Epic Saga of Julius Ceasar's Elite Tenth Legion and the Armies of Rome" by Stephen Dando-Collins.

A study of Caesar's most famous legion.
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Thanks gents! Going to do some reading now...!
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I think you guys have covered all the classical writings on the roman/greek time periods, however Caesar Legion by Stephen Dando Collins is one I have to add to the list.

He covers Caesars entire military career through by following the story of his elite tenth legion (the legion which composed his right flank at the battle of pharsalus just for context) and draws on almost every classical acount of the events he describes. Its also a compelling read.

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sry gillis!

have to remember to read entire threads!
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Peter Connely Greece and Rome at War

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Gibbons 'Fall of the Roman Empire' is a good meaty read.

Also a more new book called 'Britain AD' which describes the era which is nowadays recongnized as the age of Arthur, meaning somewhere from the fifth to the eight centurys beginning.

Good reading, especially as the writer of Britain ad is an archaelogist, and therefore doesnt go too much into fanciful ranting based purely on reading ancient scripts and imagination, but also the physical evidence of the time, a good grounding effect that makes this work stand out from the multitude of the books spawned out of the new found fascination on the age and story of the 'real Arthur' that begun about ten years ago...
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A new book out, The Fall of the Roman Empire by Peter Heather. The author looks at the military-political aspect and offers the thesis with the Huns under Attila that Rome's enemies had learned how to dismantle their empire.

[Paraphrased from the London Times Literary Supplement] Unlike the Goths at Constantinople, 370s, who could not sustain a seige, the Huns were able to deprive the Romans of their strongholds and use them for their own protection, allowing them to hold territories indefinitely where the Goths had to limit themselves to intermittent raiding.
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Working my way through Herodotus right now. Good stuff, lots of historical personalities, practically have to keep a scorecard of who did what to who, how often, and what the other guy's revenge was.

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Historical Fiction?

While I realize the original intent was to examine works by "historical authors", much of what we have received from these worthies has been found to be somewhat fictional or perhaps just less than factual. Even first hand accounts by such men as Caesar played loose with the facts when it was advantagous. With that in mind I find that Collen McCullough (already mentioned) in her "First Man" series and Jack Whyte in his "Skystone" series treatment of the Arthurian legend perform a remarkable feat of reasonable reconstruction of the times, events and personalities.

History will, to some extent, always be a fiction. We can never know the full facts surrounding any event...much less war and combat. I had an excellent Russian History Professor in the l960's, who stated the following opinion; The first 10 years after the end of hostilities the "victors" write the history. The second 10 years, the "vanquished" write their description of the events and outcome. The third and final phase occurs during the subsequent 10 years when "historians" sit down and, using both sources and any newly found data, try to piece togather the "truth" to the extent possible in human behavior. To that extent "what if" may be the closest we ever get to reality.
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Yes, I think that although we owe Herodotus (who's landmark history I have read), and Tacitus (Who'm I havent got to read, but intend to), a great ammount, but it's obvious to read between the lines on many an account.

Even nowadays, certain victors books on their troops actions have been a bit too glorified for my taste.

And it seems only now is there a good staple diet of balanced war history coming out on many wars. I think that the very good, 'Guns, Germs and butter' was exellent.
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Yes, I think that although we owe Herodotus (who's landmark history I have read), and Tacitus (Who'm I havent got to read, but intend to), a great ammount, but it's obvious to read between the lines on many an account.
Tacitus is easy to find and read. You can get the paperback cheaply and I think you can download it for free.
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Also a more new book called 'Britain AD'...
Would you happen to have an author on that one Mr Pounder?

Sounds like my kinda book.

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The organization of the Legion changed during the tenure of the Roman civilization. The legion of 200 BC was different fromt the Legion of 44 BC was different from the legion of 450 AD.

You're not asking an easy question (and most of us deal only in easy questions, nicht wahr?).
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I'm looking for books specifically abt pre/para/post Roman Britain.

Also Ireland and Scotland. I think the Celts are cool.

The only Celt book I have is Celtic Warriors by Tim Newark.

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