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Idiot students upset...

The teacher told them to "speak American."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...cid=spartandhp


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"We were speaking about the Yankees," she said, saying the incident occurred on Thursday. "In Spanish, because that's how we feel more comfortable."
The teacher, who usually teaches English but was substituting for an algebra class, wasn't having it, and she began ranting and yelling about speaking English in the classroom, Vianery said.
"I laughed, because, first of all, that's not a language," Vianery told NBC News. " I have the right to speak Spanish. I have the right to speak English. I have the right to speak whatever language I speak, and that's my right. There's no law that says that I should or I must speak English."
Ah, so let's see... First she and her friends were speaking Spanish because they didn't want the teacher to know they were bigots / racists. I assume they weren't discussing the baseball team...

Second, American is a variant of English like Cockney or Maroon, so the student is wrong there.

Third, as a student, and a minor, you don't have the "right" to speak in whatever language you want during a class. The teacher has authority over you, and it doesn't matter if speaking English is in law or not.

The student continued with this:

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"She said if I wanted to speak Spanish to do it at my Spanish class," Vianery said. "It hurts, because I came to this country to accomplish my dreams, and to hear that — it's not fair."
Works for me. Fair? Hardly. Since when is your speaking Spanish something that should be "fair" in a society that speaks American English?

One of the other students said:

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"She should be fired," Cabrera said. "I don't think it's fair."
School isn't about fair, and she could have stopped at think.

Then the article writer throws in this useless bit of information:

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In 2016, nearly half of the student body, 49.7 percent, reported speaking Spanish at home, while 62 percent identified as Hispanic or Latino and only 32 percent reported speaking English at home, according to local school board statistics
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So? What difference does that make?
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Aren't the Yankees a baseball team?
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Totally wrong TAG.
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So what's the biggie ?

We've spoken Scots at home and English in the classroom for donkeys'.

What the teacher says in his/her classroom goes, it's as simple as that.
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You missed this little gem from the teacher:

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"They're not fighting for your right to speak Spanish," the teacher says about U.S. soldiers in a video that was originally posted on Snapchat and obtained by NBC News. "They're fighting for your right to speak American."
Just another right wing classroom martinet triggered by exposure to people who are different.
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What a stupid and blind teacher. How many of those fighting are Spanish speakers or even Latinos from other countries? Himmler would be proud of her and those with like minds.

14% of our military are Latinos you dumb ask broad.
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An english teacher subbing an algebra class. Why were those students speaking "about the Yankees"? Why weren't they engaged in doing math? As for the young lady's reason for coming to this country to 'accomplish my dreams' - she needs to know that the common language in the United States is American English. I have no problem with she and her friends speaking Spanish to each other but do it on their own time not during class time when speaking the common language of the United States is expected.
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Second, American is a variant of English like Cockney or Maroon, so the student is wrong there.
American English is the variant of the English language. "American" is not a language, any more so than "Jewish" is a language (heard that one from my Jewish grandmother. ) As an English teacher, this person should have known that, but being a resident of the State of New Jersey, she's just as likely to struggle with English as she is with professionalism and driving. That's the etiquette equivalent of walking into a shop in Quebec City and telling them to "speak white" (had a cousin who did that on a regular basis. ) It's both factually wrong and it's impolite.

Regarding the students, they should not be speaking a foreign language in class unless the language in question is germane to the work being done in class. Speaking Spanish in order to keep a secret from the teacher is equally rude.

So there you have it: substitute teacher and high school student in Cliffside Park NJ, acting like the losers that God made them. The two of them should have their heads banged together, a la Moe doing it to Larry and Curly.

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High School Algebra students have no business talking about "Yankees" in Algebra Class, in any language. If the student disagrees, maybe she can go back to the Dominican Republic and achieve her dreams in Spanish, there. The next thing you hear is her family did not enter the US legally?

It was extremely disrespectful for those students to be talking in a different language so the teacher would not understand them. I taught a year in an inner city Black High School in Louisiana and the students there would never have pulled a stunt like this. If the Administration does not nip this in the bud, what will the "children" do next?

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What a stupid and blind teacher. How many of those fighting are Spanish speakers or even Latinos from other countries? Himmler would be proud of her and those with like minds.
Who cares? Mexican Spanish is different from say Cuban Spanish, and both are different from Castilian Spanish in Spain, just as American English is different from British English.

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14% of our military are Latinos you dumb ask broad.
Throwing an irrelevant red herring ad hominem into the mix is meaningless and insulting all at once. Again, so what? Even in the military speaking a foreign language is not something you do on duty except as a translator.
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Who cares? Mexican Spanish is different from say Cuban Spanish, and both are different from Castilian Spanish in Spain, just as American English is different from British English.
But there is no lengua que llama mexicano, there is no lengua que llama cubano -- just as there is no language called American. There's español mexicano, and there is español cubano, and there is American English.

But there is no language called "American." Never has been.
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Ah, so let's see... First she and her friends were speaking Spanish because they didn't want the teacher to know they were bigots / racists. I assume they weren't discussing the baseball team...

Talk about claiming racism based on absolutely nothing other than your own hate. They were speaking spanish so they must be racist? Sad. I was with you, but if this is the way people feel about Hispanic kids then good on them, I hope they trigger more snowflakes.

You can speak whatever language you want among your friends. If they want to make up their own language no one can tell them not to.
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Aren't the Yankees a baseball team?
If they were speaking in a language you don't understand, how would you know for sure if it was the Baseball team or a derogatory reference to a certain group of people?

It is rude and lazy in any case, just ask the French or Germans or Japanese what they think about this sort of thing.

Yeah, yeah, we know; on rule for America, another sort of rule for everywhere else on planet Earth, once again.
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