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Ties threatened: US to tell Cuba to remove most diplomats

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Only days ago, the United States and Cuba maintained dozens of diplomats in newly re-opened embassies in Havana and Washington, powerful symbols of a warming relationship between longtime foes. Now both countries are poised to cut their embassies by more than half, as uncanny, unexplained attacks threaten delicate ties between the Cold War rivals.

The Trump administration will tell Cuba on Tuesday to withdraw 60 percent of its diplomats from Washington, American officials said. The move is a direct consequence of last week’s U.S. move to cut its own embassy staff in Havana by a similar proportion.

The request marks yet another major setback for relations between the two neighbors, less than three years after they renewed diplomatic relations. It comes as the U.S. seeks to protect its own diplomats from unexplained attacks that have affected at least 21 Americans in Havana, in some cases harming their hearing, cognition, balance and vision.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson discussed the plan Monday with President Donald Trump. The State Department was expected to formally announce the decision Tuesday, officials said, though they cautioned no decision was formalized until publicly announced. The officials weren’t authorized to discuss the plan publicly and requested anonymity.
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Well, what did one expect from opening a formerly closed embassy? Do ya think that in the fifty-plus years that building has been there, sitting in the warm Havana breeze, that perhaps 'someone else' may have planted some experimental stuff not to be detected by 'sweepers'? Is it really a stretch of the imagination to think that US 'cultural attaches' may be targeted for experimental sub-sonic infiltration?
Perhaps the Obama-era personnel who occupied the embassy during those heady days when 'normal relations' seemed oh, so do-able were ju-u-u-u-st a bit gullible?
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It's a logical move, and I'm fine with it. Relations with Cuba is a one-way street with Cuba reaping all the benefits, to begin with.
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It's a logical move, and I'm fine with it. Relations with Cuba is a one-way street with Cuba reaping all the benefits, to begin with.
How many hotels has Cuba planned to open on the mainland?
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How many hotels has Cuba planned to open on the mainland?
I imagine they'd struggle to afford a single beach cabana, much less a hospital.
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Isn't there free healthcare in Cuba, and aren't some of the best doctors in the Caribbean there as well? Along with some of the best beaches and international chains of hotels?
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One thing people should consider is that Cuba doesn't seem to have much to gain from this move. So what was the end goal if this was a Cuban initiative? If Cuba is receiving so much largesse at American expense, why bite that hand for no gain?

One has to consider that, if a deliberate attack, who benefits from souring the relationship between Cuba and the US? Hardliners in the Cuban government? Other nations wanting to create a wedge? Non-state actors? Or is it just a coincidence, something caused by a factor we haven't discovered yet?
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One thing people should consider is that Cuba doesn't seem to have much to gain from this move. So what was the end goal if this was a Cuban initiative? If Cuba is receiving so much largesse at American expense, why bite that hand for no gain?

One has to consider that, if a deliberate attack, who benefits from souring the relationship between Cuba and the US? Hardliners in the Cuban government? Other nations wanting to create a wedge? Non-state actors? Or is it just a coincidence, something caused by a factor we haven't discovered yet?
Well, it definitely isn't random. Not when one of those injured reported his attack while in bed and moved just a few feet away after waking up and the attack effects stopped entirely. Something that specifically aimed is on purpose.

I think with Cuba's network of internal agents watching everyone and what they do, it'd be hard for an external agent to do this without being known to the Cuban government, particularly since these attacks have been repeated.
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Of America? None? Why would they?

But a lot of American outfits want to go back to the golden days of gambling and all the rest in Cuba.
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Of America? None? Why would they?

But a lot of American outfits want to go back to the golden days of gambling and all the rest in Cuba.
Cuba would be smart to welcome such enterprises - $$$$$ ALWAYS speaks the loudest.
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Of America? None? Why would they?

But a lot of American outfits want to go back to the golden days of gambling and all the rest in Cuba.
Right, why some company's would love to open up a golf course or two...with Russian funding.
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