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Post-WWII German Guerillas

Interesting documentary From the History channel on Post-WWII German Guerillas..it reminds me of the ordeal the US military has gone through in the post war Iraq and Afghanistan. Even after the Germans surrendered in April of 1945, 16 months later German supporters of the Reich were launching attacks against Germans sympathetic to the allied cause as well as attacks against US soldiers,
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Interesting documentary From the History channel on Post-WWII German Guerillas..it reminds me of the ordeal the US military has gone through in the post war Iraq and Afghanistan. Even after the Germans surrendered in April of 1945, 16 months later German supporters of the Reich were launching attacks against Germans sympathetic to the allied cause as well as attacks against US soldiers,
German surrender was in May 1945 - not April.

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At 02:41 on the morning of 7 May, at SHAEF headquarters in Reims, France, the Chief-of-Staff of the German Armed Forces High Command, General Alfred Jodl, signed an unconditional surrender documents for all German forces to the Allies; committing representatives of the German High Command to attend a definitive signing ceremony in Berlin. General Franz Böhme announced the unconditional surrender of German troops in Norway on 7 May. It included the phrase "All forces under German control to cease active operations at 2301 hours Central European Time on May 8, 1945."[18][25] The next day, Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel and other German OKW representatives travelled to Berlin, and shortly before midnight signed an amended and definitive document of unconditional surrender, explicitly surrendering to all the Allied forces in the presence of Marshal Georgi Zhukov and representatives of SHAEF.[26] The signing ceremony took place in a former German Army Engineering School in the Berlin district of Karlshorst; it now houses the German-Russian Museum Berlin-Karlshorst.
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There was an organization set up for stay behind German troops codenamed "Werwolf". Most of them stayed in the woods a while and then went home when the stored food ran out. They did kill the first Mayor of Aachen appointed by the American Army, Dr Franz Oppenhoff.

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There was an organization set up for stay behind German troops codenamed "Werwolf". Most of them stayed in the woods a while and then went home when the stored food ran out. They did kill the first Mayor of Aachen appointed by the American Army, Dr Franz Oppenhoff.

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Read Propaganda in Warfare 1939 -1945 by Micheal Balfour - particularly pages 407 to 410. The Werewolves were primarily a German propaganda invention with very little actuality behind them. Also Jack D Hunter best known as author of The Blue Max wrote various pieces about this. Hunter was dropped into Germany in 1945 as an OSS operative tasked with infiltrating the Werewolf operation - a job which he found somewhat difficult as much of it was smoke and mirrors - initially covering efforts by some Nazi officials to get out of Germany with as much loot as they could carry and later as a pretext for straightforward criminal activity. Much the same as paramilitaries do in Ireland today. However some have remained gullible enough to take it all seriously.
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Not much to write home about.
The werewolves caused the allies a lot of stress according to the documentary, did you watch any of it? 6 allied German mayors were taken out by the werewolves for example.
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Magnifying over a very simple mistake commonly made to totally distract for whatever nonsense reason you have probably due to your dislikings of my worldviews, your not fooling anyone except trolls.

Perhaps your acting like a whiny brat above because the documentary I showed shows that the British used the gullitone on captured German werewolves. Decapitation used by the British during WW2, beheading we have seen that occur around the world today. Some have said that we would have to go back to the middle ages to see Europeans acting barbarously, were you trying to distract from the undeniable facts of the video shown in the op?
In point of fact, the guillotine was a legal method of execution in France until 1981 (although last used in 1977), in Sweden between 1903 and 1921, when capital punishment was abolished, in East Germany until 1966, and in West Germany until 1949.

Between 1933 & 1945, there were estimated to have been around 16500 executions using this device in nazi Germany.

In short, whatever feelings of repugnance execution by this method may have brought about, the fact is that it was a legal device in both East & West Germany in the early post war period.
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The werewolves caused the allies a lot of stress according to the documentary, did you watch any of it? 6 allied German mayors were taken out by the werewolves for example.
"According to the documentary" (and I watched it all and believed very little of it - especially when it started repeating some WW1 myths) which contained very little in the way of reliable sources. For example where is the evidence that 6 mayors were taken out by werewolves? Perhaps six small town mayors died - evidence needed but even if so given the turbulent times, old scores being settled etc etc where is the evidence that werewolf activity was responsible ? - indeed they make a marvelous cover for criminal elements. I've worked with a few guys who were involved with administering bits of Germany 1945-50 and according to them there were plenty of criminal elements around. My comment about gullibility remains.
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In point of fact, the guillotine was a legal method of execution in France until 1981 (although last used in 1977), in Sweden between 1903 and 1921, when capital punishment was abolished, in East Germany until 1966, and in West Germany until 1949.

Between 1933 & 1945, there were estimated to have been around 16500 executions using this device in nazi Germany.

In short, whatever feelings of repugnance execution by this method may have brought about, the fact is that it was a legal device in both East & West Germany in the early post war period.
Yes good points also the US was using the electric chair for a while. My point was meant to be a response to Mark V whom itt talked about Irish barbarity perhaps in the 20TH century, well the truth is that the British were just as bad though in the 20TH century in terms of terror attacks and criminal actions. For example the documentary I showed compares British treatment of captured werewolves to that of Soviet treatment of captured werewolves. In other words a werewolf would have wanted to be captured by an American before a Brit or Soviet.
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The werewolves killed 6 German allied mayors, did you know that? The werewolves also launched successful attacks on American soldiers a # of times.
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The werewolves killed 6 German allied mayors, did you know that? The werewolves also launched successful attacks on American soldiers a # of times.
When a member such as Mark V says that he has serious doubts about this , good luck for bringing us proofs of your claims , even if they are from a tv do u.
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