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California largest population living in poverty

More people living in poverty in California than any other state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...y_poverty_rate
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More people living in poverty in California than any other state.

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GEE, really? Which State has the largest population?

TX has a higher percentage than CA.
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GEE, really? Which State has the largest population?

TX has a higher percentage than CA.
Its even funnier than that. Of the 15 states that have a higher % of poor than California, 14 are 'red' states (DC is also worse). Oh dear!

This means one of 4 likely responses: 1) the thread gets few responses & quickly dies; 2) somehow its all Democrats fault; 3) attack the way poverty is measured; 4) something about murder rates in Chicago.
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FAKE NEWS, you forgot Fake News. Oh and MSM is out to get Trump or something about Clinton or Obama both of which are not in government
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There is also another possible factor. Around the world many richer countries paradoxically have large numbers under the relative poverty line. This is often because they act as magnets for people from poorer countries who want to better their lot. However they tend to initially enter the population at the lower income levels. A better measure is how long families remain below the poverty line - ie how quickly do family members get better paying employment etc. Is poverty a transitional phase for some or is there a large and possibly growing reservoir of permanent poverty? I would imagine that in the days of mass migration from Europe at the end of the 19th century New York would show some very large concentrations of poverty. Simple snapshot comparisons such as the table attached to the OP can be highly misleading (sometimes deliberately so). Is there an inward flow from poorer states into California?
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I guess this means that people who work make less money than people on welfare, if you believe all the cliches and stereotypes.
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Is there an inward flow from poorer states into California?
Yes, but they are in Mexico!

There are several ladies on the McNeese Softball Team from California. They have all said they were trying to get out of California! Back during the Depression, a lot of Dust Bowl refugees from Arkansas and Oklahoma went to California. There was also a movement of Southern Blacks as well.

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Back during the Depression, a lot of Dust Bowl refugees from Arkansas and Oklahoma went to California.
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It was the poor farmers that had to leave. Those guys are the hardest workers for the least gain. I am not sure where you get the connection between Laid Back and Arkies/Okies. My Mother's family qualified as Arkies. The difference is GrandPaw was a Pipefitter. They lived in St Louis and Denver for a while, but mostly in Fouke, Arkansas. The family ended up in Sulphur, Louisiana where Grandpaw got a job building the Cities Service Oil Refinery. He ended up in the Maintenance Crew there.

Grandpaw had two brothers that also traveled going from job to job as Pipefitters. They ended up staying in Rodessa Louisiana a few miles South of Fouke) until they died. The old Teer farm in Fouke is now part of a Timber Company Tree Farm. Rodessa is now Woods again.

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Back during the Depression, a lot of Dust Bowl refugees from Arkansas and Oklahoma went to California.

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Well I'm sure many of us have read The Grapes of Wrath too but only a tithe of those who migrated to California way back then were from the Dust Bowl. For example in July 1937 the San Francisco Chronicle quotes officials from the State of California reporting to Federal authorities in Washington that in the 1936 -37 period 2,946,614 people had migrated to California by motor vehicle almost all manual labourers and needing welfare initially. The numbers coming from the Dust Bowl in that period being about 70,000. The University of California estimates that the number of Dust Bowl refugees from Oklahoma, Texas, Colorado, Kansas, and New Mexico reaching California between 1931 and 1939 at around 200,000. A big number to be sure but an awful lot were coming from somewhere else.
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What do you call sharecroppers without a chance of a farm, but laborers? The Dust Bowl touched all of the Great Plains states. These include the states you list as well as Nebraska and the two Dakotas. There were lots of Picker jobs to be had in California. There were also a lot of seasonal harvesters in the Great Plains that followed the Wheat crops North as they ripened. No crops, no work!

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What do you call sharecroppers without a chance of a farm, but laborers? The Dust Bowl touched all of the Great Plains states. These include the states you list as well as Nebraska and the two Dakotas. There were lots of Picker jobs to be had in California. There were also a lot of seasonal harvesters in the Great Plains that followed the Wheat crops North as they ripened. No crops, no work!

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So over 2,000,000 migrants to California in 1936 - 37 were pickers and seasonal harvesters?
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Its even funnier than that. Of the 15 states that have a higher % of poor than California, 14 are 'red' states (DC is also worse). Oh dear!

This means one of 4 likely responses: 1) the thread gets few responses & quickly dies; 2) somehow its all Democrats fault; 3) attack the way poverty is measured; 4) something about murder rates in Chicago.
California can only try so hard. Give them a chance to turn the state into the Socialist paradise their leadership so badly wants and poverty will skyrocket.
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More people living in poverty in California than any other state.

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