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Right-wing censorship continues

For the third time now the Trump admin has issued warrants on people who have accessed anti-Trump websites or pages.

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The requested data — which targets all the information in three accounts — would include information on about 6,000 individuals who “liked” an anti-Donald Trump Facebook page, according to CNN.
http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/departm...ump-activists/
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For the third time now the Trump admin has issued warrants on people who have accessed anti-Trump websites or pages.



http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/departm...ump-activists/
That's not censorship. Censorship is is denying speech, not monitoring it.

"It's intolerable! It's an atrocity! Donald Trump wants to know what I posted on social media for everyone to see! It's so horrible! How dare he violate my privacy by looking at what I shouted in public for all the world to hear! It's 1984 man!"
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I can't argue free speech with someone who supported the patriot act. You'll never understand.
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I'd think it depends on what's on those websites / pages. If they advocate stuff like killing the President or open armed rebellion against the government, then there is probable cause to get warrants. If the sites are just screaming hate at Trump because they disagree vehemently with him, then it'd be wrong.
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I'd think it depends on what's on those websites / pages. If they advocate stuff like killing the President or open armed rebellion against the government, then there is probable cause to get warrants. If the sites are just screaming hate at Trump because they disagree vehemently with him, then it'd be wrong.
Nope. If that were the case secret service would already have paid them a visit, or the FBI would be handling it.

This was just your typical anti-trump activism page.

This warrant will grant them access to their passwords and credit card information along with a list of other personal details they have no business collecting.
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http://www.snopes.com/department-of-...st-disruptj20/

Not good but this sort of thing has been going on since the republic was founded. Lincoln put Journalists in jail for being critical of his policies.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=70018
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For the third time now the Trump admin has issued warrants on people who have accessed anti-Trump websites or pages.



http://nypost.com/2017/09/28/departm...ump-activists/
According to CNN
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One of those investigated is Lacy Macauley,leader of Antifa .
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Last year FBI spied on Trump supporters on social media .
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Last year FBI spied on Trump supporters on social media .
It only matters when the non-Left does it. For the Left By Any Means Necessary is the rule and justification.

After all, Leftists are the most accepting and tolerant people there are, unless you have a different point of view. Then it's justified in their view to kill you.
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I searched for that but can't find where the FBI issued warrants on Trump supporters.

But, as I said above I'm against the patriot act, against any and all Americans having the government invade on their privacy or right to free speech. I didn't vote for the person who proclaimed certain parts of the internet should be shut down.
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Fixed it for you. I understand paranoia. I just don't care about it. And wringing your hands in dread over the government reading your PUBLIC internet posts is definitely a silly thing I don't care about.
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Fixed it for you. I understand paranoia. I just don't care about it. And wringing your hands in dread over the government reading your PUBLIC internet posts is definitely a silly thing I don't care about.
If you can say that, you definitely do not understand the situation.
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If you can say that, you definitely do not understand the situation.
You have a right to privacy. If you wish to exercise it, don't vent your spleen on Facebook. You can't demand privacy for what you do publically. That's dumb. If you want privacy that's fine. BE PRIVATE and you'll have it.
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