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A big bang event in Ukraine - I hope someone has kept the fire insurance cover up to date

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-e...-dump-explodes
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no extra/precautions/auxiliary/etc safeguards?
any experts on how arms should be stored safely?
firewalls/etc?
..it says ''continued for hours'', so i take that as it got out of control--more than one area/section ??--or 1 section can take that long time to go off--dangerous so they can't get in to control it?
..taking for granted the arms/ammo are somewhat separated
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no extra/precautions/auxiliary/etc safeguards?
any experts on how arms should be stored safely?
firewalls/etc?
..it says ''continued for hours'', so i take that as it got out of control--more than one area/section ??--or 1 section can take that long time to go off--dangerous so they can't get in to control it?
..taking for granted the arms/ammo are somewhat separated
Well if one has exploding projectiles it's going to spread to all parts in a somewhat random fashion
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Well, maybe now there is a side that wants that war to be over soon.
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This is the second arms depot fire in the Ukraine this year. The first was at Balakliya, near Kharkov.





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Vlad's probably thinking of making his move now that a bunch of Ukraine's ammo has gone..
He said this a while back-



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Meanwhile Ukraine urgently launches inspection of another ammunition depot which finds two senior officers in charge "completely drunk"
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/09/28/drunk_tonight/
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mystery solved...

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32 thousand tons of ammunition is lost in Vinnitsa depot explosion - more than expenditure in 3 years of Donbass war (24 thousand)
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/10/02/vinnitsa/
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Several incidents of this kind in Eastern Ukraine since the early 2000s:

https://youtu.be/ul7PEwGQfzE?t=9m6s
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32 thousand tons of ammunition is lost in Vinnitsa depot explosion - more than expenditure in 3 years of Donbass war (24 thousand)
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/10/02/vinnitsa/
Hasn't Juntz been posting for a couple of years now that Ukros are running out of ammo...not the case then?
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They say in 2008 Ukraine had more than 2 million tons of ammunition in various depots. About 200 000 tons were scrapped since then, so still 2 million must be remaining. Which is a huge pile (for comparison Soviet expenditure in 1941-45 was about 10 million tons).
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They say in 2008 Ukraine had more than 2 million tons of ammunition in various depots. About 200 000 tons were scrapped since then, so still 2 million must be remaining. Which is a huge pile (for comparison Soviet expenditure in 1941-45 was about 10 million tons).
Was there any word on the quality of that ammunition? Ukraine, even before the war, didn't exactly have the most reliable military equipment. I remember some reports about how the numbers of Ukrainian military vehicles were grossly over-inflated because many were just rusted or gutted wrecks due to poor storage, corruption and limited budgets.
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Don't know. Just from a common sense ammunition can be stored for decades with a proper procedure.
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