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Stop making everything about race. Do you really think it is only "white Trump supporters"?
The topic and issue at hand is about race and Trump supporters are making it out as though blacks deserve to be hated. So yes, it is absolutely primarily white Trump supporters and whites in general. I'm sure there's some racism coming from liberals as well, but the bulk are Trump supporters.
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Yep, and the Left is making it more likely by the day with their intolerance, violence, and hatred.
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Yep, and the Left is making it more likely by the day with their intolerance, violence, and hatred.
The NFL protests have been nothing but peaceful yet generated tremendous hate towards minorities from the right. So the issue isn't how the protests are conducted, the issue is blacks opening their mouth and complaining at all. Despite the fact that we now clearly see how lowly white America still thinks of blacks.
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From the NFL's game operations manual-

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

This is part of their job. If you sign a contract with an NFL team you have to abide with their rules.
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The NFL protests have been nothing but peaceful yet generated tremendous hate towards minorities from the right. So the issue isn't how the protests are conducted, the issue is blacks opening their mouth and complaining at all. Despite the fact that we now clearly see how lowly white America still thinks of blacks.
The ones who are protesting (whether they are white or black) are being coddled by the league because they are Leftists.
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The ones who are protesting (whether they are white or black) are being coddled by the league because they are Leftists.
The league definitely is not leftist nor are they being coddled. Do not forget Colin is being kept out of the NFL for his stance. Also, numerous NFL owners donated to Trumps campaign. These same NFL owners who supported and voted for Trump admitted that his comments were divisive.
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The topic and issue at hand is about race and Trump supporters are making it out as though blacks deserve to be hated. So yes, it is absolutely primarily white Trump supporters and whites in general. I'm sure there's some racism coming from liberals as well, but the bulk are Trump supporters.
The topic at hand is disrespecting the flag when they are being paid to entertain. The players can protest any day of the week but people aren't paying and spending time watching games to see political activitism.

The left is turning this into a racial issue.

Is this guy one of your "white Trump supporters"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEcYDa7r4-I
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The league definitely is not leftist nor are they being coddled.
The league coddles them because they fear being called "racist."
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Do not forget Colin is being kept out of the NFL for his stance.
Have you checked his record lately? He's won only three of the last 19 games he started. He has Fumble-itis.
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The topic at hand is disrespecting the flag when they are being paid to entertain. The players can protest any day of the week but people aren't paying and spending time watching games to see political activitism.

The left is turning this into a racial issue.
The protests are about race and always have been. As you see from posts in this very thread you have people calling blacks whiners, NFL players having nothing to complain about, blacks being the problem, etc. So it's not me trying to turn it into race, that was always the core issue before I said anything. What we're finally seeing is their true feeling and their racism that they've tried to hide.

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Is this guy one of your "white Trump supporters"?
What would you say the percentages are?

The problem I have is the clear hypocrisy and double standards which have always existed from the right wing.

From gun laws to protests. The NRA and republicans were all for open carry and 2ndA until blacks began exercising their rights, which then led to the terribly restrictive gun laws we see in California that were supported by Reagan and the NRA. As I said before, the right has great policy until they allow their inherent hate for others to get in the way.

Right wing will defend the KKK's right to protest and display a flag that tried to destroy our nation. But black players kneeling is unacceptable. Every time a person of color protests it's met with anguish from the right, rich or poor, popular or not the right has always tried to silence black activism.

The message is very clear, "stay in your place at the bottom of society". Will you find blacks that support the message? Of course. But, you'll also find black slaves who agreed with slavery, that however doesn't cancel out the other 99% nor make it right.
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The league coddles them because they fear being called "racist." Have you checked his record lately? He's won only three of the last 19 games he started. He has Fumble-itis.
NFL owner's have come out and said his protests are a factor. They weren't afraid of being labeled racists then. Robert Kraft publicly voiced support for Trump when the MSM was calling him racist. Obviously he wasn't afraid of being labeled racist.

Whether people like it or not, they had the right to kneel.
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Whether people like it or not, they had the right to kneel.
That's in their contract?
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The protests are about race and always have been.
That is what the left wants the agenda to be......the truth does matter:

https://www.prageru.com/courses/race...-police-racist


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The NRA and republicans were all for open carry and 2ndA until blacks began exercising their rights,
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From the NFL's game operations manual-

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

This is part of their job. If you sign a contract with an NFL team you have to abide with their rules.
You forgot the qualifier before your bolded words. "Should" is not the same as "must".
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That is what the left wants the agenda to be......the truth does matter:

https://www.prageru.com/courses/race...-police-racist
Disagreeing with the protests doesn't change the fact that they were still about race. Again, they were. So you can't have a complete conversation about the protests without discussing race.

But, you'd rather argue with me instead of the right wing members who have clearly exhibited racism. Showing what your priorities are. If you went after those people instead of me, there'd be no need to discuss racism in America.

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https://www.theroot.com/black-guns-m...the-1794793669
In the 60's the NRA and republicans supported and enacted restrictive gun legislation in response to blacks open carrying.
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