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Motorway IED Threat

The last few days have seen two motorways close for hours while suspect packages were investegated by bomb disposal squads. IMV this points to an increased police alertness on this threat, used extensively in Syria and Iraq. My guess is there has been some intelligence pointing to a cell actively planning such an attack.
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The last few days have seen two motorways close for hours while suspect packages were investegated by bomb disposal squads. IMV this points to an increased police alertness on this threat, used extensively in Syria and Iraq. My guess is there has been some intelligence pointing to a cell actively planning such an attack.
The first was not an IED but a plastic bag containing some sort of acid. So far they haven't said what the second was but something similar seems to be likely. No one has claimed responsibility. Bit early to start jumping to conclusions as to which set of nutters is responsible. Bomb squad attendance a sensible precaution until the nature of the substance established.
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The first was not an IED but a plastic bag containing some sort of acid. So far they haven't said what the second was but something similar seems to be likely. No one has claimed responsibility. Bit early to start jumping to conclusions as to which set of nutters is responsible. Bomb squad attendance a sensible precaution until the nature of the substance established.
I think you've missed the point here, it being that police are unusually alert and cautious. There is all sorts of crap left by the side of the Motorway, hardly ever cause to shut down all lanes, both ways, for many hours.

Why are the police so jumpy now? My bet is the have been told to look for IEDs. Why not? There is every chance a specialist has been shipped over from Syria or Iraq. Not that it even needs one, just a crude timing device like the recent tube bomb.
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That's something to be really concerned with. IEDs on the Autobahn will pose a significant threat to what forces we have left in Europe.
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That's something to be really concerned with. IEDs on the Autobahn will pose a significant threat to what forces we have left in Europe.
It's probably too sophisticated to target an army truck, not enough of them on the motorway and a bigger chance of getting caught near a base. My guess is they would target the public, a coach if they have eyes on, or else a busy period and a timer to just hit some unlucky motorist.

Like a tube attack, it would cause a lot of disruption and impact on the wider public.
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I think you've missed the point here, it being that police are unusually alert and cautious. There is all sorts of crap left by the side of the Motorway, hardly ever cause to shut down all lanes, both ways, for many hours.
The loads of crap do not include acid or other corrosive substances
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The loads of crap do not include acid or other corrosive substances
Again, you haven't grasped the substance - a bucket of acid is not cause to shut the Motorway on both sides - it is more suggestive of a police concern that it could be a bomb - hence the bomb squad attending, not a waste disposal team
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Again, you haven't grasped the substance - a bucket of acid is not cause to shut the Motorway on both sides - it is more suggestive of a police concern that it could be a bomb - hence the bomb squad attending, not a waste disposal team
Actually they did call a hazardous waste disposal team. The explosive squad was a sensible precaution. I think you are trying too hard as per usual to see a crisis. AA corrosive liquid spilled out across a motorway could be a very serious hazard especially if it caused tyres to fail
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Turns out that someone is trying to start a fire on the M3

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Police said they were also investigating a similar case on the same bridge at about 04:00 on 16 September, when an object was dropped onto the carriageway and there were also reports of a fire.
On that occasion officers found "a quantity of broken glass" but no fire.
A petrol bomb that had burnt out by the time they arrived?

This time it seems it was a flammable substance that did not ignite

Sounds like the same sort of lethal idiots that drop concrete blocks off motor way bridges
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Actually they did call a hazardous waste disposal team. The explosive squad was a sensible precaution. I think you are trying too hard as per usual to see a crisis. AA corrosive liquid spilled out across a motorway could be a very serious hazard especially if it caused tyres to fail
Sure, one sees the bomb squad all the time on the motorway, no big deal at all.

I'm afraid you are likely to be proved wrong, a not uncommon occurrence, and we will see a roadside IED at some point, since the trend is for attacks that work in the Middle East to transfer to Europe.
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Sure, one sees the bomb squad all the time on the motorway, no big deal at all.

I'm afraid you are likely to be proved wrong, a not uncommon occurrence, and we will see a roadside IED at some point, since the trend is for attacks that work in the Middle East to transfer to Europe.
Can nothing get through your skull armoured with alt right prejudice and a coating of conspiracy theory?

The Bomb squad was there because they were asked to be - in case

Or are you secretly wanting the worst to happen (like shooting a German ambassador or the Reichstag fire?)
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That's something to be really concerned with. IEDs on the Autobahn will pose a significant threat to what forces we have left in Europe.
The autobahn is in Germany. These incidents are in Great Britain. Get out your map.
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Sure, one sees the bomb squad all the time on the motorway, no big deal at all.

I'm afraid you are likely to be proved wrong, a not uncommon occurrence, and we will see a roadside IED at some point, since the trend is for attacks that work in the Middle East to transfer to Europe.
Given that the alert level is severe and that there was a recent attempt to attack the tube along with the attacks earlier in the year, understandable that the security services are a bit jumpy.

Given the crudeness of some of the recent attacks not impossible that the terrorists may just chuck a rock at a coach from a motorway bridge possibly targeting a school coach. Islamic terrorists just want to kill westerners, preferably children (Manchester, Nice, Barcelona) or people, particularly young women (Manchester), at an entertainment venue. In France the terrorists have done attacks as simple as driving into a queue at a bus stop.
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