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Classic inversion;
For the European Left, it is 1,000 times more preferable to bring in hundreds of thousands of Muslims of military age, cover up their crime rates and poor education and single-digit employment rates ... and at the same time discount the opinion of other people because they are Christians.

Ah, but the US still has binding Military and Economic ties with these guys ... so who is the real bunch of fools here?
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When someone uses a video clip for backing up his views , everytime I check the source.
That's how it works in my world .
That's a Christian's job to be aware of the melting down of his faith and to shout that the end is near.
Funny how for you Europe is like a zombie apocalypse movie.
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Been trying to figure this out for years. Since June of this year, I have put maybe 200 hours of reading and watching documentaries into trying to wrap my head around this. No one can pin point how or why. Since 2015 hundreds of thousands of migrants have entered Europe. Most are NOT from Syria. How are they organized? Who's paying for them? I believe from my research the picture of the dead boy on the Greek beach was staged. I watched and read an hour long Russian reporter (subtitled). The Syran boy in the ambulance also staged. A supposed chemical attack in a war zone and the ambulance is spotless. Foreign tv round tables have journalists saying they have witnessed women in boats headed for Europe throwing Their babies in the Mediterranean, then quickly rescuing them for the news cameras. London looks more like Pakistan then England. 1st it was guest workers, then declining population, war, now diversity.? I AM NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY NUT. Something is going on. No one knows how it's organized. No one knows who finances it. No one knows why?
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There are effectively two distinct flows. One come form ME mainly Syria and Iraq. Countries harboring most of this flow are Turkey and Jordania well before EU countries.

The second flow come from Central Africa and is not really organized as such. Malefactors use will of people to reach Europe by selling the travel. Basically a movement similar to European emigration to USA notably from Ireland and Italy.

Pakistani immigration in UK predate migrant crisis by decades.
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There are effectively two distinct flows. One come form ME mainly Syria and Iraq. Countries harboring most of this flow are Turkey and Jordania well before EU countries.

The second flow come from Central Africa and is not really organized as such. Malefactors use will of people to reach Europe by selling the travel. Basically a movement similar to European emigration to USA notably from Ireland and Italy.

Pakistani immigration in UK predate migrant crisis by decades.
There simply is no correlation between the historic Pakistani immigration to the UK and what is happening in Europe today, all they have in common is the word 'immigration' and even then that word doesn't apply to the invasion taking place in Europe today.

First off, the Pakistani's integrated into British culture, they opened small businesses, became doctors and generally were successful and appreciated by most of us.
Secondly, we have historic ties with Pakistan, many of their fathers and grandfathers fought for us during WW2.
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Nevertheless they contribute to the Islamisation of your society, arguably to greater extend than the new arrivals who are much smaller in numbers..
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Nevertheless they contribute to the Islamisation of your society, arguably to greater extend than the new arrivals who are much smaller in numbers..
I rented a car in Leeds Airport a few months ago. When I turned on the radio the first 4 stations I found were Islamic. It doesn't feel like a European City. That is a result of migration which predates the current "crisis".
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Of course - I've heard English truck drivers here complain about it way back in the early nineties.

Remarkably, back then the proposed solution by many of them was to move to Spain or the Med after retirement, don't know how that fits with Brexit or the current wave of migration though.

It's no different here, if you look at the actual terrorists of the Paris/Brussels attacks by far most of them are the descendants of Muslims imported on the watch of those very people that are here lecturing us now.

Where were they in the 50s-70s ?

Right - cashing their fat checks and looking the other way.
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Of course - I've heard English truck drivers here complain about it way back in the early nineties.

Remarkably, back then the proposed solution by many of them was to move to Spain or the Med after retirement, don't know how that fits with Brexit or the current wave of migration though.

It's no different here, if you look at the actual terrorists of the Paris/Brussels attacks by far most of them are the descendants of Muslims imported on the watch of those very people that are here lecturing us now.

Where were they in the 50s-70s ?

Right - cashing their fat checks and looking the other way.
Three of the four 7/7 terrorists were of Pakistani origin. The third was from Jamaica. The Pakistanis were all descendants of Muslim immigrants, the Jamaican was a convert.

The Pakistanis were all from Leeds.
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Nevertheless they contribute to the Islamisation of your society, arguably to greater extend than the new arrivals who are much smaller in numbers..
No, their radicalised sons and grandsons do.
That is not the fault of the original immigrants and those offspring that do offend are no longer migrants, they are citizens.

What we see in Europe is a million ready to offend islamics waltzing in as they please to settle where they please and with no intentions whatsoever of integrating.
Our original Pakistani immigrants brought their entire families with them and arrived after having gone through the official channel, not the English channel.

They came here with dreams and they are ashamed of the young generation.

Where are the families of Europe's new blood?
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I rented a car in Leeds Airport a few months ago. When I turned on the radio the first 4 stations I found were Islamic. It doesn't feel like a European City. That is a result of migration which predates the current "crisis".
Did it not occur to you that the previous driver may have been islamic and simply left the radio tuned?
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great questions

why no pressure on japan saudi arabia UAE and other non-white country to take in more immigrants
well maybe because these countries dont have the self hating highly educated liberals who are forcing multiculturalism on their own people
That is part of it. Japan has the same demographic challenge of an aging population faced by Europe. They have chosen to take the economic hit and avoid the cultural risk of mass migration. Europe has prioritised economic performance and corporate profit, willing to risk the cultural price. Most of the political and business elite have been united in creating a culture of multiculturalism, an offshoot of globalisation, that drives an acceptance of erasing national and cultural pride. Maybe Brexit was a cry against this in the UK, everyone else cheerfully swallowing it and saying it tastes great.
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That is part of it. Japan has the same demographic challenge of an aging population faced by Europe. They have chosen to take the economic hit and avoid the cultural risk of mass migration. Europe has prioritised economic performance and corporate profit, willing to risk the cultural price. Most of the political and business elite have been united in creating a culture of multiculturalism, an offshoot of globalisation, that drives an acceptance of erasing national and cultural pride. Maybe Brexit was a cry against this in the UK, everyone else cheerfully swallowing it and saying it tastes great.
Japan is going down the path of expanding the development of robotics to help make up for the labour shortage resulting from an ageing population.

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Robots are seen as a 'must-have'

Economists argue that Japan either needs to accept more immigrants or put robots to work.

Japan's overall population is now declining at the fastest rate globally. The country sells more adult diapers than baby diapers and fewer workers to support an aging population likely leads to poor economic growth.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/09/here...th-robots.html

There could be a huge financial dividend for Japan flowing from this drive towards robotics.

Killing three birds with one stone is how I see it.

Economic growth from potential exports

Helping out with labour whilst population is falling

Maintaining their culture without the need to resort to immigration

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The scientific service of the BRD parlament made a report that the asylum demanders should have been sent back at the german border in 2015. So far the BRD goverment failed to give a legal explanation why it was possible for them to enter and it is likely law has been broken. The liberal FDP and the centre-right AFD want to have a committee of inquiry on that question if they get into the parlament.

Its nice news. BUT i doubt it will guarantee we kick the illegals out even if their entry has been proven unlawful. Merkel will get away with it anyway and nothing will happen aside of: "Oops we knowingly broke a bunch of laws and lied about it beeing legal. Sorry we hope we wont do it again." Interesting how in a few decades a proud nation can reach the level of a second rate banana republic.
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Japan is going down the path of expanding the development of robotics to help make up for the labour shortage resulting from an ageing population.
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Maintaining their culture without the need to resort to immigration

All true.

I will refer you to this one-
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Where are the families of Europe's new blood?
Family reunification has been legally limited here precisely for this reason.

To prevent those that can legally settle here to bring in a whole string of dependent family members.
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