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It amazes me that this is what our laws can now do. I've seen people get less for physical violence towards others. There have been marches by Muslims shouting death to all disbelievers etc....

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...aLO?li=BBoPWjQ

I'll say no more in case I get raided, summoned to court and put away too.
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Are you sure it's true ?

I ask because there have been any number of threads here of this kind,

"Young girl in Sweden faces jail sentence for using pepperspray in self defence" and all that,

usually it turns out to be rubbish.
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I do believe that this case was highlighted some months ago. Now it's gone to court.

But then, on a related topic we have this

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...fNN?li=BBoPWjQ

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Lee Rigby's killer has launched a compensation bid over a scuffle with prison guards that could cost taxpayers £100,000.
Just because someone "launches a bid" doesn't mean it will be granted.

Just because someone "faces a jail sentence", enfin I'm sure you get the point.
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That's what I mean.



Just because someone "launches a bid" doesn't mean it will be granted.

Just because someone "faces a jail sentence", enfin I'm sure you get the point.
Sky:
"A man who wrote "let's kill every Muslim" in a Facebook post following the Manchester Arena bombing has been sentenced to a year in prison."

BBC:
"A Wrexham man has been jailed for a year after posting "let's kill every Muslim" on Facebook in the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bombing."

The other, Lee Rigby story, will still mean that the British taxpayer will have to foot the legal bill whether that filth's case stands or falls. If we had the death penalty or the policeman who shot him hit him squarely in the head, perhaps we wouldn't be going through this ****.
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In that case I can only agree - it's insane.
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if he would have said ''kill every muslim that wants to kill us'', I'd agree with him
..we have some crazy sentences here in the US, but that's how the system works....I would think those are rare
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He was jailed not for his opinion but for inciting violence - only the very far right neo fascists seem unable to see the difference.
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It amazes me that this is what our laws can now do. I've seen people get less for physical violence towards others. There have been marches by Muslims shouting death to all disbelievers etc....

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...aLO?li=BBoPWjQ

I'll say no more in case I get raided, summoned to court and put away too.
The thing is though, if you go easy on him you are gonna have to go easy with all the ISIS wannabees too. IMO it's more about making an example than the effect of the post.
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The thing is though, if you go easy on him you are gonna have to go easy with all the ISIS wannabees too. IMO it's more about making an example than the effect of the post.
In this case I'd have to disagree, websites and private posts calling for the eradication of the "infidels" are a dime a doze, they are the main conduit for Islamist propaganda,

to imprison this one just because he can be easily identified is disastrous for public perception and will come to bite you in the ass eventually.

The judge should have convicted and sent home, if on no other ground than the principle of equality before the law.
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In this case I'd have to disagree, websites and private posts calling for the eradication of the "infidels" are a dime a doze, they are the main conduit for Islamist propaganda,

to imprison this one just because he can be easily identified is disastrous for public perception and will come to bite you in the ass eventually.

The judge should have convicted and sent home, if on no other ground than the principle of equality before the law.
No to say because you were stupid enough to get caught is not a mitigating factor. Any one regardless of creed, political conviction etc trying to incite violence should be punished if they can be identified and brought before the courts. That is where they went wrong in Germany in the late 20s
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(...) That is where they went wrong in Germany in the late 20s.
Where they went wrong in Germany was to **** off the population for decades on end to the point a majority of them saw fit to participate in industrial mass murder.

It wasn't the first time either, and by no means unique to Germany.

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I disagree here, a court - here at least - has the option to convict you of a crime but to decline an effective sentence.

Convict him to one year provisional on the condition the same won't happen again and be done with it.
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He was jailed not for his opinion but for inciting violence - only the very far right neo fascists seem unable to see the difference.
Don't be a prat! And don't allude to me being a Nazi.

If a bunch of Muslims can and have done on a regular basis, demonstrate by shouting or holding banners saying ''death to the infidels'' Death to all who insult Islam' which is what we who don't practice Islam are' and do every day, then surely some angry bloke posting 'Death to all muslims' is about as offensive. He gets 'banged up' the Lefty-Liberal establishment excuse the bunch of muslims for exactly the same thing. I'll say nothing of the lunacy of the media and 'government speak'.

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