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I hate to burst your bubble, but Trump does not own any slum properties.

Incidentally, slumlords are created by rent control. Anyone who owns property that fall under rent control are more or less a "slumlord". One one improves properties if there is no monetary gain in return for doing so. None of the low-middle class income apartments and homes built by Fred Trump Sr are owned by the Trump Organization or Donald J Trump and his siblings or children.
It's called being facetious Sal. I have made no secret about the fact that I cannot stand the sight of the Nazi sympathizing resident of the White House, and calling that fat golf playing assh0le slum lord his just another manifestation of my ever increasing animus towards that wacktard!!!
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No it would throw the markets into confusion and encourage the trend to renewable something that both Putin and Trump don't want.
Not in the US would it. Trump isn't buying the "renewable" bull. And, it is bull. Since the US is the largest importer of Venezuelan crude, and it is an odd grade to refine, if the US wasn't doing that the world market would see a dip in production.

Aside from that when the keystone XL completes Canadian tar sand oil will be going in greater quantity to Texas for refining. If there is a current market hit, it's hurricane Harvey that has shut down much of the production in Texas temporarily.

Renewables are utter BS, particularly solar. Sure, there's a current push for this but at some point it will be realized just how insanely stupid solar is and it'll drop by the wayside as a mistake in history.
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He was doing that long before this latest sanction came along. In fact, Chavez was too... Gotta blame somebody for you screwing everything up.
yeah but Trump got played once again.

First talk of US using military force and now this.

Think the Sanctions without the previous talk about using military force would of been ok but now it just yankee imperialist doing what it always does
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Are there any plans to have sanctions against people doing business with Venezuela?
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Venezuela owns Citgo. If you forbid business with them, you would have to shut down a couple of oil refineries. You also have all those little stores selling Citgo gas.

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Venezuela owns Citgo. If you forbid business with them, you would have to shut down a couple of oil refineries. You also have all those little stores selling Citgo gas.

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The US portion of Citgo filed for Chapter 11 protection to avoid a Venezuela meltdown back in 2009...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB125709781695721315

https://www.wsj.com/articles/could-b...ult-1506008425
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Cool Northern refineries would be more hurricane-proof....

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Not in the US would it.

Aside from that when the keystone XL completes Canadian tar sand oil will be going in greater quantity to Texas for refining. If there is a current market hit, it's hurricane Harvey that has shut down much of the production in Texas temporarily.
I find it hard to understand why there are no refineries closer to the border between US/CANADA. If there were, there would be not so much need for a dedicated pipeline that spans most of the vertical US or a dependence on refineries that are vulnerable to a gulf storm..
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I find it hard to understand why there are no refineries closer to the border between US/CANADA. If there were, there would be not so much need for a dedicated pipeline that spans most of the vertical US or a dependence on refineries that are vulnerable to a gulf storm..
Because the cost of building one today, with all the government regulations... particularly environmental ones... makes it cost prohibitive.

A company about two decades ago was going to build one in Yuma Arizona for example to do California and Venezuelan oil but the cost estimates shot out of sight as the environmental reviews and studies got started. End of that project.

Look at how much BS went into building an oil pipeline. Imagine the BS that attends building a refinery.
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