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1. Pakistani army chief holding meeting with emir of Qatar to discuss "regional security"
2. Pro-Saudi Arab nations draw up "economic sanctions list" targeting Qatari officials and businessmen
3. Bahrain demands Qatar distance itself from Iran
4. Iran offers Qatar use of its ports
As to 4, I also recall seeing that Iran offers Qatar an air route out for its international flights.

Reflecting on the Turkish involvement, I wonder if Turkey now percieves Saudi as the greater regional challenge to its interests, or is attempting to stoke conflict between Saudi and Iran in order to get both key regional rivals to face off.
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As to 4, I also recall seeing that Iran offers Qatar an air route out for its international flights.
Actually Iran offers every one an air route - they have an open skies policy. - one of the international agreements they adhere to - null points - a non argument. As a passenger I have fown over Tehran an many occasions going yo various destinations.
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Pakistan to send 20,000 troops to Qatar

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a few more things
1. Jordan bans al-Jazeera and expels Qatari ambassador
2. German foreign minister voices support for Qatar
3. Saudi official to the Financial Times: "If our army would invade Qatar, the US will look the other way. They have pledged this to us".
4. Qatar threatens to cut gas supplies to UAE
5. Turkey will also send naval and air assets to Qatar
6. al-Arabiya news (Saudi-owned) accuses Erdogan of having ties to extremist terrorists
7. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan hinting that Saudi Arabia and the UAE were behind last year's coup in Turkey.
8. Tourism revenues expected to decline this summer across the region...
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Pakistan to send 20,000 troops to Qatar

https://www.pakistantribe.com/62243/...soldiers-qatar
I considered Pakistan to be in Saudi's pocket and am surprised, again, that they would place troops in Qatar. Who knows what chips are being cashed in and deals cut behind the scenes. Maybe it will blow over or maybe it will suddenly burst into open conflict.
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All the Kingdom has to do is hire the Pakistanis that go to Qatar to take over the place. Pakistan is a country with a split personality. They arm and finance the Taliban and send troops into Baluchistan and the Tribal Areas. They also train Kashmiri Muslims to do sabotage and terror in India. They are hard to figure out at times.

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My analyis is that many countries intend to remain neutral in this conflict as long as possible.

Because of the financial weight of Saudi Arabia they make take some token steps, such as scaling down diplomatic relations as e.g. Jordan has done, but I expect them to be really hesitant to fully committing themselves.

I wonder how far Saudi Arabia is prepared to go in order to twist the arms of fellow Muslim countries and force them to take sides as such bullying policy would endanger their own position.
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Qatar vs Saudi Arabia: proxy edition
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There is oftedn a lot of posturing and pretence in the region, For example when Qatar was still a British protectorate and there was a British garrison there was some dissatisfaction with the then Emir who would make some of the real backwoodsmen on ACG look like dangerous progressives. For example he insisted that all the oil royalties be paid in cash because he didn't trust banks (he may have been right there). So every month the oil companies (BP and Shell) used to deliver sacks of cash to the palace which were deposited in a strong room under the Emir's bedroom. The crown prince would then drive round with an armed escort delivering smaller sacks of cash to government departments as their budget for that month. There was essentially no accounting and no controls. If there was any chance of the newly discovered North Dome (which today supplies much of the UK and nearly all of Japan's gas) being developed a new regime both financial and government needed establishing however although Britain was keen to see this happen they could not be seen to be interfering. One of the emir's sons was keen to take over and willing to stage a coup but his supporters lacked arms. The whole of the British garrison went out into the desert on exercises - and left the armoury unlocked! The son's supporters helped themselves to arms and ammunition and the subsequent show of force was sufficient for a bloodless coup. When the garrison came back there was a new slightly more modern minded emir on the throne. Of course the British Army held an enquiry as to who was responsible for the shocking negligence of leaving the armoury unlocked but surprise surprise no one was to blame! It was all down to faulty procedures -tut tut. I believe a couple of gongs were discretely handed out in the next honours list.

So charades are often the order of the day so don't always take things at face value.
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1. UAE to withdraw all monies from Qatar banks
2. Niger cuts diplomatic ties with Qatar
3. Kurdish YPG states "Saudi brothers" are entitled to have a say in Syria
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1. UAE to withdraw all monies from Qatar banks
Which is probably not a lot as each emirate (Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Sharjah, etc etc tend to have its own accounts around the world - the federal involvement is quite weak

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and now can we have some funds please?

The last time I was in Qatar I left about 12 pounds worth in my account as would have cost more than that to close it. Perhaps I ought to make a meaningless gesture - because that's all this lot amounts to.
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Quite certain the last one was designed to irritate the Turks..
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Pakistan to send 20,000 troops to Qatar

https://www.pakistantribe.com/62243/...soldiers-qatar
Turkey is also sending troops to Qatar. It's looking like a major battle is imminent...
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Do Turks and Pakistanis get along? I am curious as to how many of these troops will be Shiia?

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