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Ranger Military Intelligence Battalion

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http://taskandpurpose.com/75th-range...fth-battalion/
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The article says the training standards for the new battalion will be the same as the rest of the Ranger Battalions. My question is whether there is a lesser standard for Female Candidates to Rangers? I also wonder if they will take only full Rangers or if they will accept those with only a Ranger Tab?

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Ranger units have always accepted soldiers without a Ranger Tab in grades E1 through E4. Soldiers in leadership positions need to be Ranger qualified before being accepted or become Ranger qualified before being promoted.

The female thing just is whatever it is - and who really knows what it is? According to the Ranger Training Brigade, the females who are Ranger qualified met the school standards and are legitimate. But there are those who will never believe that no matter what. Time will tell, I reckon.

I highly doubt the 75th Ranger Regiment will water down it's Ranger Assessment and Selection Program for enlisted soldiers. But some people will never be convinced of that either.

I believe the Royal Marines All Arms Commando Course is facing the same controversy. She passed.....but did she really pass?
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The article says the training standards for the new battalion will be the same as the rest of the Ranger Battalions. My question is whether there is a lesser standard for Female Candidates to Rangers? I also wonder if they will take only full Rangers or if they will accept those with only a Ranger Tab?

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A Ranger tab signifies completion of the Ranger School.

To serve in the Ranger Regiment, a soldier has to complete the Ranger Assessment and Selection Program (RASP), either RASP 1 for E1-E5, or RASP 2 for E6 and above. E1-E4 almost certainly haven't completed Ranger School before attending RASP 1, E5 may have.

E6 and above most likely have completed Ranger School before attending RASP, but I've heard about exceptions for certain branches/MOSs that are required in the Regiment. They'll be sent before assignment, or soon thereafter.

This Regimental Military Intelligence Battalion is a completely separate issue both from the assignment of women to the 75th Ranger Regiment, and from women attending Ranger School.

When the article states that the standards are the same, they mean that Rangers assigned to the MI Battalion will have to pass RASP (1 or 2, as appropriate), just like all other Rangers, including those in the current MI Company and in the forward support (logistics) companies do.

As far as I can see reported, two women (1 NCO and 1 officer) have attempted RASP 2, I didn't see that any have attempted RASP 1. Only 1, the officer, was selected. No reporting since she was selected in January, but I'd expect that she is there and serving by now.

This article lists the minimum physical standards to complete RASP. https://www.goarmy.com/ranger/training/rasp.html Of those, only 1 could possibly be gender-normed, the 240 on the APFT (which is gender-normed for pushups and run). If she can do the required chin-ups, I'm not worried about pushups, and if she can run the 5 miles in 40 minutes, I'm not worried about her 2-mile run time.
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