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LAV 25 airborne cavalry

Looks like the 82d is testing the LAV 25 for airdrop:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapo..._13004171.html

I find it hard to believe this has not been tested before now.
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Does seem a little odd. Maybe it's not the LAV, but some of the internal electronic gear that they have to shock test?
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It has. The 3-73 AR had 16 LAV-25s for testing from 1989 until sometime in the 90s, including deploying them to Desert Storm with the battalion scout platoon.

The SEP-OCT 91 issue of Armor magazine, available at http://www.benning.army.mil/armor/eA...ackIssues.html, has an article about their employment in Desert Storm, and says that the modification for air drop had been contracted but not completed.
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Looks like the 82d is testing the LAV 25 for airdrop:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapo..._13004171.html

I find it hard to believe this has not been tested before now.
Marines can't jump.
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But it can be airdropped like the BMD-4 with all its crew in it and be ready to fight right after it lands? How does the LAV-25 compare to the BMD-4 in off road mobility? Why not use a stripped down M2A3 Bradley without the applique armor or reactive armor, retaining its side firing ports and amphibious capability as well as being lighter and having all the upgrades of the A3.
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But it can be airdropped like the BMD-4 with all its crew in it and be ready to fight right after it lands? How does the LAV-25 compare to the BMD-4 in off road mobility? Why not use a stripped down M2A3 Bradley without the applique armor or reactive armor, retaining its side firing ports and amphibious capability as well as being lighter and having all the upgrades of the A3.
It no where near BMD4 in off road moblitie. A light weight tracked IFV vs a Wheeled one. Tracked win. BMD4 is one deadly piece of kit.


The bradly swim abliety all ways been a bit of a here and there thing. I mean it needs a fare bit of prep time. I dont think one will swim ever again. All so even striped down the Bradly still out weighs the LAV 25. The LAV25 is lighter than the striker. It only 12 or so tons.



I think the best choice though is some thing like the wesseil that germany uses. It small, fast and able to go just about any where. So it will be with the partroopers even when they fight up the top of mountains. It can be par droped, loaded in helicopters or slu g under them. It can fited for a range of missions. From Radar system, Anti Air, Anti tank, fire support, recon, ambulance, transport, command and more.


The partroopers could get more on the ground in more configurations and they easier to mantian. They really the best choice. Better than the LAV25 or Bradley.
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I remember the 82nd Airborne using the LAV 25 in combat in both Operations Just Cause and Desert Storm. They weren't air dropped during Just Cause. Now as far as what will replace it I see the Havoc replacing the LAV-25 not the AAV-7.
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Actually, they have been testing them for years at APG. I'm not sure in what capacity, perhaps joint or for future Army applications. At least one that I saw had Marine vehicle markings, so that may have been a contracted test.

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Looks like the 82d is testing the LAV 25 for airdrop:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/weapo..._13004171.html

I find it hard to believe this has not been tested before now.
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Maybe thinking about merging Airborne into the Marines? Put all the specialists together?

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Marines aren't stupid enough to jump out of perfectly good airplanes...
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No such thing as a perfectly good airplane.

And it's the fastest way to get to the battlefield. First in, no sloppy seconds!!!

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And it's the fastest way to get to the battlefield.
And the fastest way out of the battlefield, if you're the pilot.
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And the fastest way out of the battlefield, if you're the pilot.
If they make it that far.

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Marines aren't stupid enough to jump out of perfectly good airplanes...
Ever check into Marine Recon? They wear Jump Wings and jump. One of the few things I thought accurate about Clint Eastwood's 'Heartbreak Ridge' was how the Platoon jumped from a Helicopter and got into inflatable rafts to motor to the beach. I would have preferred an Air Assault but the Marines were using this movie as a recruiting lure. I was more impressed with Rihanna filling out a Navy shirt though in a different movie.

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