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... worst movies by way of ageing, are the 70's era disaster films; the Airport series, Towering Inferno, Earthquake etc. Most featured large cast 2nd tier acting, were contemporary for the 70's with effects that can be hard to watch today; they're just awful. That said, some movies of the era like The Sting, MASH, and American Graffiti aged well; then again, Period Dramas, short on special effects, always seem to age well.
The Sting is a classic.

The 70s were not great times for movies.
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The 70's not good decade for movies ?
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Same here.

The Godfather 1 & 2, Jeremiah Johnson, Hard Times (Bronson's best movie), Dirty Harry, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, Jaws, and Star Wars. And those are just off the top of my head.
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Don't forget Dustin Hoffman showing off in "Little Big Man". I liked Gene Hackman and Roy Schneider in "The French Connection". I liked "Soldier Blue" and "Apocalypse Now".

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did anyone mention Patton?
Scott does a great job...but like the Bulge, the ''fakeness'' really is ridiculous
...same 2 German airplanes in different areas...
...fake airplane explosions/explosions
...fake blood
...fake German HQs
...wrong tanks
...infantry bunched up
...fake airplane machine gun rounds impacting perfectly with even spacing
I'm sure there are many more
I got the DVD as a present--I used to love watching this--but now, it's a fake ''true'' story, but not stupid enough to be fun to watch

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did anyone mention Patton?
Scott does a great job...but like the Bulge, the ''fakeness'' really is ridiculous
...same 2 German airplanes in different areas...
...fake airplane explosions/explosions
...fake blood
...fake German HQs
...wrong tanks
...infantry bunched up
...fake airplane machine gun rounds impacting perfectly with even spacing
I'm sure there are many more
I got the DVD as a present--I used to love watching this--but now, it's a fake ''true'' story, but not stupid enough to be fun to watch
The aircraft were directly from the Spanish air force, on the condition that they were not shot down, blown up or damaged in any way. Have to make allowances - they were authentic German aircraft, after all.

Seriously? All blood is fake blood. nobody gets to shoot or kill the actors or the cast for real.

Fake bullet impacts - see: Not allowed to shoot at the actors!!

Wrong tanks because at that time the industry providing imitation tanks was not developed as it was after Saving Private Ryan, but they still get it wrong if you ever count the number and placement of roadwheels. They use ex-Soviet chassis and build fake bodies, and since when was that self-propelled artillery piece a "panzer"?! There was only one tank in that whole film, and it was an imitation Tiger. The only real Tiger that still works is in the Bovington Armor Museum.

Infantry bunched up - YES! Because Hollywoody can't fit them all in the frame in they don't. Happens in every single movie you will every see.
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Back to movies that did not age well: Blaxploitation films. Thee was a whole genre of them very briefly, and none of them survived the test of time, although once in a while one will show up on very late night television.

Also films starring child actors. Shirley Temple is probably the one major exception. Certainly not McCauly Caulife.
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... worst movies by way of ageing, are the 70's era disaster films; the Airport series, Towering Inferno, Earthquake etc. Most featured large cast 2nd tier acting, were contemporary for the 70's with effects that can be hard to watch today; they're just awful. That said, some movies of the era like The Sting, MASH, and American Graffiti aged well; then again, Period Dramas, short on special effects, always seem to age well.
Hey I liked Airport! And Inferno.

My picks.....Airwolf. Its not a movie but I remember how awesome it looked when I was nine and how cheap it looks now. American helos with Russian stars, obviously sped up footage trying to make Airwolf look fast, and reused (several times) footage.
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Oh, come on now...Dances With Wolves is and will remain a classic, and No Way Out was very good. The Postman? Waterworld? Nah...


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Hey I liked Airport! And Inferno.

My picks.....Airwolf. Its not a movie but I remember how awesome it looked when I was nine and how cheap it looks now. American helos with Russian stars, obviously sped up footage trying to make Airwolf look fast, and reused (several times) footage.
Modified Bell 222...and as corny as they came with a pilot who left all the controls in the hands of his flight engineer.

Good pick, though.

As for 70's films in general, however, soe of the greatest films of all came out during that period.

http://www.shortlist.com/entertainme...70s#gallery-10
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Oh, come on now...Dances With Wolves is and will remain a classic, and No Way Out was very good. The Postman? Waterworld? Nah...
Yea, and the sequel... Dances with Aliens (aka Avatar) was so much better...

I found Dances to be one of those Progressive revisions of history that was just stupid on the order of Disney's Pearl Harbor.
The Postman and Waterworld were the stuff of B movies at best.
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I read Dances With Wolves and saw the movie. I give a mixed review. Substituting Lakota for Comanches was a mistake. I find the character "Stands With Fist" to be unbelievable. This actress was possibly on friendly terms with a Producer?

Both the Lakota and Comanche had extensive contact with the US Army before the Civil War. I give them points for using real Native Americans. Both tribes were well armed with Firearms by this time as well.

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I read Dances With Wolves and saw the movie. I give a mixed review. Substituting Lakota for Comanches was a mistake. I find the character "Stands With Fist" to be unbelievable. This actress was possibly on friendly terms with a Producer?

Both the Lakota and Comanche had extensive contact with the US Army before the Civil War. I give them points for using real Native Americans. Both tribes were well armed with Firearms by this time as well.

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I wasn't impressed with the movie. Like you, Stands with Fist seemed very weak. Interestingly, that was her first major acting role; she was a model before then.

I was also interested that they had to have a white woman as his love interest.

Regarding the Indians, yes, they would have had access to firearms, but the Plains tribes were hindered by poor marksmanship with firearms (riding alongside a bison did not require shooting skills), poor maintenance, and the terrible practice of extending ammunition supplies by reducing or diluting powder charges. Firearms never altered their habit of getting in close to fight.

It cost them dearly, especially in clashes with buffalo hunters.
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