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Talking In Fake Aviation News Today: Qaher F-313 Taxi Trials

The Iranians proudly demonstrate taxi trials of their fake stealth fighter Qaher F-313.

BTW, Mr. Fighter Pilot from Iran, if you don't shave your facial hair oxygen mask won't seal. You risk passing out from hypoxia.

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Better improvement from the mock-up they had back in 2013.
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Is it just me or do I hear the sound of a two stock MC motor?
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Is it just me or do I hear the sound of a two stock MC motor?
Assune you mean a two stroke moor cycle engine? Does anyone still make two strokes?
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Assune you mean a two stroke moor cycle engine? Does anyone still make two strokes?
Still popular for scooters.

It looks like someone watched Eastwood's 1982 Firefox and decided to try a home-made version
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Apparently the canopy is one of the few mechanical parts that work so the Iranians take care to show it close like 3 times.

In my opinion this plane is so tiny it can't carry any iseful equipment. It looks like a 1:2 scale model of the plane they will ultimately build
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It's a step in the right direction at least.... I wouldn't be so flippant in their efforts, except for their propaganda efforts. They still manage to keep F-4s and F-14s in service despite the many years of embargoes.
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Next step : make it fly !

For the moment , it's a moped with a decent look ,probably designed with the help of a Sinclair Spectrum 48 k (got one ) ,by a clone of Nuclear Nadal.

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It's a step in the right direction at least.... I wouldn't be so flippant in their efforts, except for their propaganda efforts. They still manage to keep F-4s and F-14s in service despite the many years of embargoes.
Yeah, and the plywood just makes them that much more stealthy.
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What is the objective of the thing?
  1. To boost domestic moral?
  2. To try and fool Iran's opponents? And to what end?
  3. Or could it be a double bluff to conceal the fact that they do have an effective stealth fighter project running?
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Hey, give them a little credit... They got real jet engines from like RC Model Plane World for it...



On a more serious note, it is possible it's just a scale prototype for testing...

This is the Saab 210 used to develop the F-35 Draken. Same idea.


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The Middle Eastern word for "diplomacy" translates as "dick sizing".
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The Middle Eastern word for "diplomacy" translates as "dick sizing".
Funny I worked in the ME for 20 years and that passed me by. What's the relevance to my question anyway?
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Funny I worked in the ME for 20 years and that passed me by. What's the relevance to my question anyway?
We all know you spent a long time in the ME, and its impact on your loyalties. You've posted your resume many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times.
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The Middle Eastern word for "diplomacy" translates as "dick sizing".
Or 'time to beg new equipment from the west'.
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