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No doubt, but did they practice imperialism ?
Yes. China was not originally the size it currently is, and most of East Asia was at one time or another Chinese suzereigns.
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No doubt, but did they practice imperialism ?



To simply be ruled by an emperor is not usually considered "imperialism", I think there are other candidates for that, perhaps not ruled by an emperor.

Also the first "Chinese" emperor, apparently, comes to the scene rather late, after the first "Persian" one for instance.
The short answer is yes; China, as we understand it today, was originally made up of seven "Warring States." I will also point that the language most people think of as "Chinese" is properly called Mandarin and it is the most commonly spoken language but hardly the only one. And, yes you could argue that China practically invented imperialism.

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Sending bomber over he Pacific is one thing. We need to look at ground forces. We nee to look at restarting the Team Spirit exercises we used to do in Korea.
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China helps US search for missing sailor in S. China Sea

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Yes. China was not originally the size it currently is, and most of East Asia was at one time or another Chinese suzereigns.
Have you ever compared that to a US map from the 13 colonies to Alaska and Hawaii? Is there a difference? What is it? Don't forget Guam, Samoa and PR.

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Japanese F-15s and US B-1Bs conducted exercises over the East China Sea today. B-1Bs flew out of #Guam. pic.twitter.com/DBlZ8LnsZI
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China wouldn't be impressed with one division. 2,3,or 4 maybe.
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I will also point that the language most people think of as "Chinese" is properly called Mandarin and it is the most commonly spoken language but hardly the only one.
Um no. That is what English-speaking people not from China call it. The Chinese call it "Standard Language"(Pǔtōnghu) or "National Language" (Guyǔ), Chinese (Hanyu). Middle Language (Jongmin). They just accept the fact that everyone else wants to call it "Mandarin", just like they call China "China". The national tongue is a "form" of Mandarin, the Beijing dialect to be exact. There are at least 6 major Mandarin dialect groups among the 297 living languages of China. While Standard Chinese is spoken by about around two-thirds of the country's people, for many Chinese, their traditional language is still what is spoken at home and among friends and relatives.
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Um no. That is what English-speaking people not from China call it. The Chinese call it "Standard Language"(Pǔtōnghu) or "National Language" (Guyǔ), Chinese (Hanyu). Middle Language (Jongmin). They just accept the fact that everyone else wants to call it "Mandarin", just like they call China "China". The national tongue is a "form" of Mandarin, the Beijing dialect to be exact. There are at least 6 major Mandarin dialect groups among the 297 living languages of China. While Standard Chinese is spoken by about around two-thirds of the country's people, for many Chinese, their traditional language is still what is spoken at home and among friends and relatives.
What is China called in China?

I was just trying to figure out yesterday if any other country than Finland has this problem. In Finnish we call our country Suomi, but since we were under Swedish rule for so long the name Finland is in use in all other languages.
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Well the Dutch obviously,

they call their country Nederland (singular), while they translate it as The Netherlands, Or Les Pays Bas in French (also plural)

They call themselves Nederlanders, everybody in English calls them Dutch,

We in Belgium call them Holland and Hollanders and their sauce Hollandaise.

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