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Old 19 Feb 17, 08:25
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They chose freedom

A comical story develops as two former Russian MP fled to Ukraine:
http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russi.../28309734.html
http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-voron.../28313807.html

The Radio Liberty article fails to mention that before his escape Mr. Voronekov was suspected in fraud and embezzlement which seems to be a prime reason for his passion for Ukrainian democracy.
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Old 19 Feb 17, 08:30
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Also from Radio Liberty:
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he compares present-day Russia with "Nazi Germany," says its 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea region was "a mistake" and "illegal"
Curiously the same man voted in the Russian Parliament for a legal act taking Crimea to Russia in 2014 and also made posts in twitter saying that he fully supports Crimea joining Russia:
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Was there not a similar case with a Russian soldier defecting to Georgia back during the war?
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After the war. The guy was a simple idiot, not a Duma member. I would rather remember a whole flock of corrupt Russian officials and businessmen running to London from prosecution. That picturesque guy, for example:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Chichvarkin
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Birds of a feather flock in the same Maidan cesspool
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What started as farce ends up as tragedy: former Russian MP Voronenkov shot dead in Kiev:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39364542
I bet on another Litvinenko-style hysteria in British media.
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I bet on another Litvinenko-style hysteria in British media
Oh, he just tripped and fell on some Polonium. You know, same way Nemtsov tripped and fell on a bullet.

Such hysteria!
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Please look-up the term; I am not the British media and I am not hysterical. Thus my response qualified neither for Quod nor Demonstrandum.

Indeed, I was being more than slightly sarcastic.

Still, if the continued murder of Putin opponents bothers you, I am sure that changing the subject will prove the best the solution
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It is in Russia, since it's not as if anyone over there can do a damn thing about any of it anyway.
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Mr. Litvinenko was not a Putin's opponent. He was a rogue cop who was forced to emigrate due to his problems with law, did some dirty work for Mr. Berezovsky and was a MI6 informer. Neither Mr. Voronenko before he lost his seat in the Parliament showed any opposition traits and was a loyalest of loyal MP. He emigration was entirely due to charges of fraud. That after emigration he flip-flopped 180 degrees was a purely comical sight that could hardly deceive anyone.
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It is in Russia, since it's not as if anyone over there can do a damn thing about any of it anyway.
The Russian government shoots people who post on ACG?

Still, its probably all the fault of the West / Imperialists / Zionists / [insert enemy de jour here]
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Meanwhile rumors spread that Voronenkov's murderer died in a hospital.
https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/23/died/
I like the story more and more.
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Meanwhile rumors spread that Voronenkov's murderer died in a hospital.
And you don't find the shooting of all these people a little bit suspicious or is this all a series just accidents?
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I find a convenient death of a hitman a little bit more than suspicious. But that is a question which should be addressed to the Ukrainian police.
BTW, I missed that one - Putin's opponent Navalny about a Putin's opponent Voronenkov (English subtitles):



Self-advertising aside gives a pretty good idea about late freedom-fighter. I didn't know about proposed Pokemon Go ban.
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