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In the past non combat casualties were more common than battle injures. In WW1 British non immediately fatal casualties on the Western Front were
  • 1914 Combat 59,346 Non Combat 78,557
  • 1915 Combat 239,867 Non Combat 579,738
  • 1916 Combat 500,576 Non Combat 643,921
  • 1917 Combat 564,691 Non Combat 1,042,266
  • 1918 Combat 624,486 Non Combat 1,184,004

Definition of non immediately fatal casualties - anyone treated by official medical personnel which were usualy the RAMC
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From your limited perspective, it does still stand as does mine from my limited perspective.
After many years of military medicine both in garrison and in the field, and command of three separate troop clinics, my perspective is far from "limited".

To put it another way, I've seen thousands more patients than you have ever seen practitioners.
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In the British Army during the two world wars, even when far away from the front line or even based in Britain, at least 0.3% were in the sick bay due to disease or minor injuries.
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I don't know about front-line soldiers, but in re-enactment we get our fair share of cuts, bumps, bruises, twisted ankles, etc.

That doesn't even include the genius Optio who got us to practise anti-cavalry formations without helmets.

Standing up under a scutum isn't exactly pleasant.
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The information here may be helpful:

http://www.history.army.mil/html/boo...ct/ww2-ts.html

Scroll down to Medical Department.
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In non western European theatres casualties doe to sickness could sometimes exceed combat casualties by over 300% in both WW1 and WW2 Malaria, typhus and enteric fever being major causes The Gt Uncle who appears as my avatar served in Egypt, the Western desert Gaza, Palestine and Syria in WW1 including four major battles not a scratch but was in hospital for a number of weeks with enteric fever on two occasions.
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It's not rare in the Marine infantry.
It's very rare in Marine artillery units, also.
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After many years of military medicine both in garrison and in the field, and command of three separate troop clinics, my perspective is far from "limited".

To put it another way, I've seen thousands more patients than you have ever seen practitioners.
You don't understand what I posted obviously.

You didn't have many years of serving in a ground combat unit, I didn't have many years serving in a military medical unit. This is where the limited perspective comes from for both of us.

Your perspective would be completely different and more on line with Massena & mine if your time would have been with the ground forces.

The last thing a Marine in an Artillery or Infantry unit would do is report to sickbay, especially if he or she was a Corporal or above.
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You don't understand what I posted obviously.

You didn't have many years of serving in a ground combat unit, I didn't have many years serving in a military medical unit. This is where the limited perspective comes from for both of us.

Your perspective would be completely different and more on line with Massena & mine if your time would have been with the ground forces.

The last thing a Marine in an Artillery or Infantry unit would do is report to sickbay, especially if he or she was a Corporal or above.
Wrong again. I served 12 years in ground combat units, and everyone including sergeants major and colonel commanders showed up for sickline whenever they felt the need.

Those who didn't paid a very high price, like the Sergeant Major who felt tired after running and decided he merely needed to run harder. After months of this, he started experiencing a little shortness of breath and decided to have me give a listen. I boarded him out of the serve for his lung cancer.

I REPEAT: ONLY FOOLS AND IDIOTS DO NOT SEEK CARE WHEN PROBLEMS ARISE.

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Wrong again. I served 12 years in ground combat units, and everyone including sergeants major and colonel commanders showed up for sickline whenever they felt the need.
Wrong again MM, you are posting from your limited personal experiences.

As am I and anyone else here that is posting limited personal experiences while in the service.

For once read what is being posted and think about what you post BEFORE you hit the submit button.


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About the only Regimental Aid Post that I didn't see full of malingerers was at Butterworth airbase in Malaysia where there was a great Indian Dr known as Dr Dan the VD-man. Cant fake gonorrhea
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