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Report that ISIS is now withdrawing from al-Bab. Unconfirmed for now, but there are several sources claiming this.

Syrian forces have continued moving east into ISIS territory in Northern Syria, capturing the large village of Rasm al-Harmel and - reportedly - the smaller village of Rasm al-Sheik. Syrian intentions may be to drive NE and seize the dominant height in the area - Sulaym mountain (516m) which would give them fire control over 3 or 4 villages and one of the main supply roads for ISIS in the north.

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Qabasin and Bzaah are also under control TFSA. Tadef is under attack.

Next target for turkish backed terrorists is probably going to be Kurd's. Hopefully Kurd's are ready for them. They have build extensive defensive system like the one in Shayih Issa. Main problem for Kurd's are lack of heavy weaponry if turkish tanks attack them.


https://warontherocks.com/2017/02/in-syria-turkey-finds-itself-boxed-in-whats-next/
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How many tanks did Turkey send? I've read around 12 to 15 have been destroyed already.
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Next target for turkish backed terrorists is probably going to be Kurd's. Hopefully Kurd's are ready for them. ...
So these "Turks" are in fact the formerly Moderate Opposition, who then were restyled as Terrorists and are now Turks ?

Do they fight alongside Assad or against him ?

And do I conclude from the green blob on the last map it is in fact them that now control Al Bab ?
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So these "Turks" are in fact the formerly Moderate Opposition, who then were restyled as Terrorists and are now Turks ?
Do they fight alongside Assad or against him ?
And do I conclude from the green blob on the last map it is in fact them that now control Al Bab ?
They are a combination of Turkish Army and FSA.
They are neither fighting alongside Assad or against him at the present moment. Both the SAA and the Turks/FSA are generally avoiding any confrontation.
The Turks/FSA now control al-Bab, Bzaah, Qabasin and Tadef.
The next target of their operations in not known.
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They are a combination of Turkish Army and FSA.
They are neither fighting alongside Assad or against him at the present moment. Both the SAA and the Turks/FSA are generally avoiding any confrontation.
Most interesting, and that presumably explains why they are suddenly labelled as "Turks" on the Syrian government maps, and no longer as "terrorists" as they were at the time of Aleppo.

A foreshadowing of a final settlement maybe ?
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Most interesting, and that presumably explains why they are suddenly labelled as "Turks" on the Syrian government maps, and no longer as "terrorists" as they were at the time of Aleppo.
Well, "Turks" because the main fighting component is composed of the Turkish army. The chief element of the FSA forces here are the al-Hamza brigade, formerly part of the Levant front which favours the imposition of Sharia law. Their main opponents now are ISIS and the Kurds.
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Well, "Turks" because the main fighting component is composed of the Turkish army. The chief element of the FSA forces here are the al-Hamza brigade, formerly part of the Levant front which favours the imposition of Sharia law. Their main opponents now are ISIS and the Kurds.
I suspect it may have more to do with controlling the Turkish border crossings than Sharia law.

They don't want IS there and Kurds even less, Sharia law in the border area would be tolerable from a Turkish pov.
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I suspect it may have more to do with controlling the Turkish border crossings than Sharia law.
I was talking about al-Hamza. They favour the imposition of Sharia law. The Turks got involved directly primarily in order to prevent the two Kurdish enclaves in northern Syria from joining together.
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Well yes I agree, Sharia law except maybe on the part of IS is at best a peripheral issue in this conflict.
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Well yes I agree, Sharia law except maybe on the part of IS is at best a peripheral issue in this conflict.
In this area of the conflict - yes; not in other parts.
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One of SDF factions is already pulling out of Raqqa-offensive in preparation for turkish attack on Manbij.
https://twitter.com/Syria_Rebel_Obs/...88095008063489
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Anyone here watch the latest Vice episode? The episode showcased how peace and freedom loving Syrians are still having days on the beach. The following report from last year shows us similar pictures that the vice report recently showed of Laktakia beach in Syria,

Many imagine explosions, death and ruins when they hear about Syria, but not a lot of people know that life in the city of Latakia is not that different from, say Tel Aviv, Larnaca and some other cities on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea.

The Russian website Ruposters compiled pictures from Syria's Latakia that show a very different side of Syria.

Women walking down the street without covering their faces, friends drinking wine and eating pizza in restaurants and local residents driving luxury cars. Check them out for yourself.



https://sputniknews.com/art_living/2...life-pictures/


Today we see that anti Muslims simply will not talk about the honorable Muslims much like how modern day Muslims who dislike all things Christian can not mention anything about Muslim scholars of history who praised Christians. Its just flat out non beneficial to the world we live in to be against religions or ethnicities.


And for the anti Muslims saying oh hes living in a dreamworld...what do you folk think is happening in Damascus? In Damascus Arab families are living how they want to live, not how ISIL dictates.
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Apparently there is clashes between turkish FSA and SAA around Al-Bab. So far no reports that turkish army is involved.
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SAA's Tiger forces have reached SDF's lines near Manbij thus preventing advance of turkish invader further south.

Even though Manbij area is not active front against ISIS US special forces are visiting SDF there. It is probably meant to deter turkish aggression towards Kurds and SDF.
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