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Apparently Turks are going all out in Al-Bab. They have launched simultaneous attacks on Al-Bab, Qabasin and Bzaah. According to some report Turks have managed capture hospital in Al-Bab.
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Apparently Turks are going all out in Al-Bab. They have launched simultaneous attacks on Al-Bab, Qabasin and Bzaah. According to some report Turks have managed capture hospital in Al-Bab.
Apparently confirmed the Turks/FSA have captured the Al Bab hospital and Aqil hill on the western side of the city. Fighting also taking place at the Youth Housing Complex on the SW outskirts. Meanwhile, the Syrian Tiger force has captured the village of Touman, SW of the city. At this stage it would seem the dividing line between Syrian and Turkish/FLA forces will be the highway running from Al Bab grain silos in the west to Bzaah in the east. This means the Syrians will likely be tasked with capturing Abu Taltal and Tadif while the Turks/FSA will deal with Al Bab, Bzaah and everything to the north.

Current situation around Al Bab

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Combine that with their loses in Iraq and Turkey stepping up their game, and ISIS is lacking a lot of options. Though considering how slow the front lines have moved once things settled down, it looks like it could just take time to dig them out.
I'm thinking the frontlines are slow to move because none of the "good guys" want to take any risks that could give ISIS the one victory they now need to bolster their numbers again.
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This conflict feels like WW1: the lines barely move.
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Syrian forces capture the villages of Shbliah and Deyr Qaq SW of Al Bab. Report of skirmish between Syrian and Turkish/FSA forces in the same area near the village of Abo Zindin. Also reported that Russian aircraft "mistakenly" bombed Turkish/FSA forces on the western outskirts of Al Bab - 3 Turkish soldiers reported killed. This occurred soon after the Syrian Tiger forces expressed their intention to capture Al Bab regardless of the Turks and FSA. Meanwhile 5th Turkish/FSA attempt to capture Bzaah has failed, along with the most recent attempt to advance into Al Bab.

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Syrian Army captures Abu Taltal. Fighting now taking place on the outskirts of Tadef, directly south of Al Bab. Syrian forces also a few hundred meters now from Al Bab silos.

Reports that Turkish/FSA forces have occupied the town of Qabasin, directly north of Bzaah and NE of Al Bab - after ISIS forces withdrew to Al Bab.
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There are rumours that SDF/YPG has made deal with Assad. SDF will hand over Tall Rifaat and Menagh airbase in norhern Aleppo over to SAA in exchange of protection from Turks/Erdogan. SDF/SAA already have some jointly controlled areas in Aleppo city and Aleppo countryside.
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At this stage it would seem the dividing line between Syrian and Turkish/FLA forces will be the M4 highway running from Al Bab grain silos in the west to Bzaah in the east. This means the Syrians will likely be tasked with capturing Abu Taltal and Tadif while the Turks/FSA will deal with Al Bab, Bzaah and everything to the north.
This now seems confirmed. Turkish/FSA forces today advance directly along the M4 highway between Al Bab and Tadef, seizing the roundabout between the two towns. Turkish sources seem to confirm the regime will assault Tadef while Bzaah and Al Bab are being left to the Turks/FSA. Question is what will the Syrians do after capturing Tadef. Some say the regime will return to dealing with the rebels west of Aleppo; others say the regime will continue striking east to Sukkariyah and then head south through ISIS territory all the way to Deir Hafer and the Jirah airbase, liberating the rest of northern Syria in the process. My money is on the latter.

Turkish/FSA attack today



A view down the M4 highway: Al Bab outskirts on the left, Tadef outskirts on the right, the roundabout in the middle.

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Have not updated for several days, so here are the developments over the past five days

Syrian forces have made no attempt to capture Tadef so far, preferring to see the Turks/FSA bash their heads against the ISIS forces in this area. Instead, the Syrian Army has advanced eastwards into ISIS territory moving forward 5km along a 12km front, seizing around a dozen villages in the process. At this point there seems some debate going on regarding the main focus of the Syrian advance
a. NE towards Sukkariyah in order to bar the way to any further Turkish/FSA advance southwards into Syrian territory
b. SE towards Deir Hafer in order to capture the main ISIS base in northern Syria.
Fighting is presently focused on the large villages of Humaymah al-Kabira - 4km W of Deir Hafer, and Rasm al-Harmel al-Imam - 6km N of Deir Hafer.

Turkish/FSA forces, meanwhile, have suffered significant reverses. The gains made 5 days ago in the Al Bab area have been lost as ISIS counter-attacks have recaptured the Tadef/Al Bab roundabout, and the SW corner of Al Bab city. Moreover, ISIS has also recaptured the farmland located directly north of the city. Turkish claims that they had captured the town of Qabasin, NE of Al Bab, have also turned out false, as fighting reportedly continues in the town. Reports that the Turks have also lost several more tanks, bringing the total now to between 12 and 15 tanks.
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Deir Hafer front - Northern Syria

Al-Mushrifah, Rasm al-Kamah, Rasm al-Kabir, Bijan, Shuwaylikh and Humaymah hill all captured in the last four days.

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Syrian Army advance against ISIS in northern Syria continues. SAA Tiger forces have liberated the villages of Rsm Harml Imam (Rasm al-Narmel al-Imam) and Ma'azah (Tabarat Madi) north of the main ISIS base in north Syria - Deyr Hafer. Next stop likely Mazyorah (Mazburah).

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SDF's Raqqa campaign continues recently they have advanced 3-4 km from Raqqa. Today they have cut Raqqa-Deir ez Zor road which means that Raqqa is cut of rest of ISIS territory since bridges crossing Euphrates have been destroyed.
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Next stop likely Mazyorah (Mazburah).
Syrian Tiger forces have liberated Mazyorah (Mazburah) from ISIS. Next stop likely al-Kitah - 5km to the north.
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It is the second phase in this conflict that becomes harder to predict, as nation states manoeuvre for advantages and ISIS gets driven underground.
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Strange to see the Turks are now an equal player, they have carved out their buffer zone in Syria then ?

They have their own "flags" too - no Russian or Iranian flags on the map though, any reason for that ?
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