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A interesting bit of news.

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Well, I'm sure that the Russian Navy has much more experience dealing with the pirates in those water than the USN, who have been there for only the sort time from 1900 until now.
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Very interesting, considering that the PLAN are some of the pirates.....

Beautiful ship, though.
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Well, I'm sure that the Russian Navy has much more experience dealing with the pirates in those water than the USN, who have been there for only the sort time from 1900 until now.
Actually 1800 or thereabouts. A good history is Robert Erwin Johnson's Far China Station: The U.S. Navy in Asian Waters, 1800-1898.

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An anti submarine destroyer - do pirates have many submarines?
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Well, the US Navy couldn't do it under Obama, so there you go. Another great Democratic foreign policy move.
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Well, the US Navy couldn't do it under Obama, so there you go. Another great Democratic foreign policy move.
Couldn't do what, deploy to the SCS? How about these...
https://www.navytimes.com/story/mili...-sea/86777268/
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10...china-sea.html
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Try again, it's called losing out to the Russians.
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Try again, it's called losing out to the Russians.
How did we lose out to the Russians? They made a port visit, big deal. I suppose we lost out to the Russians in Venezuela, too? Just another crazy ruler who doesn't like the US but whose country will go to hell without us.
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An anti submarine destroyer - do pirates have many submarines?
IF I was a pirate it would give me cause to find other work, anti-sub or not.
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IF I was a pirate it would give me cause to find other work, anti-sub or not.
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IF I was a pirate it would give me cause to find other work, anti-sub or not.
More like just to stay ashore until it had moved on or merely to try other waters. Telling the difference between innocent fisherman and pirate is not easy (and never has been). In the early 19th century the Bahrain pirate fleet was engaged in pearl fishing whenever the East India Company Marine sent a ship up the Gulf and reverted to piracy when it left.

The pirates of the Trucial States just used to haul their boats ashore until the warships had gone. On one occasion the EICM attempted to bombard the Trucial pirates but turned up and bombarded Dohar in Qatar instead of Abu Dhabi where the pirates actually where. One set of fishing boats looks very much like another.

I gather that piracy in the Far East is still much the same except that the boats now have powerful engines. One destroyer isn't much use you need a fleet of fast patrol boats
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