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Syrian Civil War, 2011 - ? From a local uprising to a proxy war, we discuss the chaos in Syria.

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Aleppo falls and the slaughter begins

The BBC are reporting that government troops are massacring civilians in Aleppo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38301629
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Mr Colville gave details of atrocities reported in areas that had fallen to pro-government forces - admitting it was impossible to verify their accuracy.
Read: some emigrant guys from London and Ankara are posting this in twitter and facebook.
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Reports are 83 dead civilians. That is s massacre now?


The rebels have lost every day thry fight drags out the violence. Best to surrender and save as much of the city as you can.
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SAA liberating Aleppo Reminds of the Soviet Union and Americans liberating Nazi occupied Europe,

One enormous problem lies in the identity of the insurgents, which Western powers and media continue to lump together as “rebel groups,” despite the fact that even the US State Department has admitted that al-Nusra (the name that al-Qaeda goes by in Syria) “is present among the fighters in Aleppo,” where “there is an intermingling of the groups.” Over the years this “intermingling” of the rebel factions with cutthroat formations that are officially termed terrorists by both the US and by the UN has radically changed the make-up of the insurgency

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Yes because the Canadians liberating these parts went from door to door shooting, raping, looting etc..

The Russians in Berlin did though.

And that my friend is the difference between liberating and occupying
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Reports are 83 dead civilians.
As a side effect of military actions - undoubtedly the number is not smaller than this. As for reports on alleged "shooting on the spot", they came from anonymous and unverified sources, so must be taken skeptically.
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Alepo didnt fall,its liberated.

get your facts right.
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Yes because the Canadians liberating these parts went from door to door shooting, raping, looting etc..

The Russians in Berlin did though.

And that my friend is the difference between liberating and occupying



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Dont act like it dod not happen just because it was kept hush and people where not hung for there crimes.
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In Belgium, by Canadians ?

I'm going to need more than a wiki page before I believe that.

They brought chocolate and condoms.

Edit: admittedly in their wake followed the vultures - mostly Belgians themselves seeking retaliation for recent events, just like
I'm sure most killing these days in Aleppo will be done by Syrians rather than Russians or Iranians.
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I would presume this topic is already contentious enough without bringing in the liberation of Europe...
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This was bound to be messy but everything I've heard from the BBC about this the last few days is Syrians in the west complaining about the things they've heard are happening with great drama. Several of them have actually had the nerve to compare this to the Holocaust. The end of this was always going to be messy, a 4 year battle where the combatants his among civilians and used them as human shields and empathy targets for western audiences. The way I look at it. If this was the al nusra or IS taking an SAA town it would be much much worse. This is the leaser of three evils.
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I pretty much quit wasting my time with the beeb. They are so biased that I just have a lack of faith in any real journalism from them. When I think of the words 'Yellow Journalism' they are the ones on the top of the list...
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Alepo didnt fall,its liberated.

get your facts right.
Yes, the wording is very interesting, and very telling to the better informed. To say it fell gives the implication of a negative event.
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Yes, the wording is very interesting, and very telling to the better informed. To say it fell gives the implication of a negative event.
I heard on radio news earlier today calling it the "conquest of Aleppo by Syria".
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Reports are 83 dead civilians. That is s massacre now?
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Given current practices in the ME, it does seem pretty low.

All the more so since ISI doesn't wear uniforms.
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